[Sunred]

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

Twice kaijin if we count Glodie from King-Ohger. I guess Amano and Hirakawa must be destined to fight each other! He's in his late 40s now, so this makes him the oldest Tertiary Rider of all time, even older than Furukawa as Nox. Talk about stealing thunder!

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Originally Posted by Frontier

The 4th Rider (because every Takahashi show needs roundabout four core Riders) will be a woman in her 50's!

Come to think of it, there was that old gentleman who had an owl motif in Geats.

[JusticeMagnum]

Sketch of Zeztz's final form "ExDream Rise".

[Frontier]

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Originally Posted by JusticeMagnum

Sketch of Zeztz's final form "ExDream Rise".

I can see why people compared it to Ultimate Kuuga but I almost wonder if it might actually be a true Berserker form with that design.

[xSauriaNx]

hi hi!
Sauri back at it again after rising from the deep blue sea.

Zeztz has been wonderful so far!

my theory is this:

2 was like Supervisor of Sieg?
What if... what if the one that got her preggy was Sieg's nightmare. Wouldn't Nemu be their kid?

Is that why his standby is "Face Your Sins"?

Just a theory... albeit a stupid one haha

[Frontier]

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Originally Posted by xSauriaNx

hi hi!
Sauri back at it again after rising from the deep blue sea.

Zeztz has been wonderful so far!

my theory is this:

2 was like Supervisor of Sieg?
What if... what if the one that got her preggy was Sieg's nightmare. Wouldn't Nemu be their kid?

Is that why his standby is "Face Your Sins"?

Just a theory... albeit a stupid one haha

Was this a room for putting agents to sleep? Or specifically Sieg?

[JusticeMagnum]

So when episode 25 dropped, an audio commentary for episodes 1-3 of Zeztz released on TTFC (with producers Hideaki Yanaka, Yosuke Minato and prop master Ririko Shinjou) where they dropped a ton of interesting information and clarification on stuff from those first 24 episodes. Here are some highlights that I thought were interesting:

- Baku's premonition isn't exactly as it seems since it's from his subjective perspective. Part of the reason why Nox and CODE where so shadowy & mysterious and why we never got a 100% clear answer on them was because that was the extent of Baku's knowledge on them (Takahashi wrote the first 24 episodes with Baku's subjective perspective in mind). I think that this also means that while the broad strokes of the premonition were accurate, it's the finer details that were muddied by Baku's perspective

- This is also why Zero appeared as a shadowy figure in episode 1, it wasn't just an artistic choice, He appears that way because Baku doesn't actually know what he looks like. (This does make me wonder if this extends to why we never learned full extent of CODE's plans or why CODE: Somnia was never named dropped in the first half of the show, it never comes up because Baku doesn't know what that is).

- The hand that's bathed in light that drags Baku into the Zeztz command room in episode 1 is played by Nem's actress however they're quick to clarify that that doesn't necessarily mean that it was Nem herself that dragged him in.

- The reason Nox was an elite vagueposter the entire time in the first 24 episodes was for two reasons: the first is that the Lady is monitoring him in the dream world so he tries to give info a roundabout way in hopes that he'll understand what he's trying to say. (I imagine combined with Baku's subjective perspective thing it made it even MORE vague than what it would've actually have been)

- They mention that Baku really wasn't all that unlucky in the first 24 episodes (outside of the occasional gag) however the bad luck he received for being a superhero and helping all those people was his death in episode 24. Also this will be brought up eventually.

- They discuss how it's likely that Nox chose Fujimi to be infected with the Bomb nightmare in hopes that Fujimi could help Baku out in the long run.

-It's mentioned that there's a story involving Nox, Fujimi, and Nasuka that has yet to be told (looking forward to that).

[Frontier]

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Originally Posted by JusticeMagnum

So when episode 25 dropped, an audio commentary for episodes 1-3 of Zeztz released on TTFC (with producers Hideaki Yanaka, Yosuke Minato and prop master Ririko Shinjou) where they dropped a ton of interesting information and clarification on stuff from those first 24 episodes. Here are some highlights that I thought were interesting:

- Baku's premonition isn't exactly as it seems since it's from his subjective perspective. Part of the reason why Nox and CODE where so shadowy & mysterious and why we never got a 100% clear answer on them was because that was the extent of Baku's knowledge on them (Takahashi wrote the first 24 episodes with Baku's subjective perspective in mind). I think that this also means that while the broad strokes of the premonition were accurate, it's the finer details that were muddied by Baku's perspective

- This is also why Zero appeared as a shadowy figure in episode 1, it wasn't just an artistic choice, He appears that way because Baku doesn't actually know what he looks like. (This does make me wonder if this extends to why we never learned full extent of CODE's plans or why CODE: Somnia was never named dropped in the first half of the show, it never comes up because Baku doesn't know what that is).

- The hand that's bathed in light that drags Baku into the Zeztz command room in episode 1 is played by Nem's actress however they're quick to clarify that that doesn't necessarily mean that it was Nem herself that dragged him in.

- The reason Nox was an elite vagueposter the entire time in the first 24 episodes was for two reasons: the first is that the Lady is monitoring him in the dream world so tries to give info a roundabout way in hopes that he'll understand what he's trying to say. (I imagine combined with Baku's subjective perspective thing it made it even MORE vague than what it would've actually have been)

- They mention that Baku really wasn't all that unlucky in the first 24 episodes (outside of the occasional gag) however the bad luck he received for being a superhero and helping all those people was his death in episode 24. Also this will be brought up eventually.

- They discuss how it's likely that Nox chose Fujimi to be infected with the Bomb nightmare in hopes that Fujimi could help Baku out in the long run.

-It's mentioned that there's a story involving Nox, Fujimi, and Nasuka that has yet to be told (looking forward to that).

I think this does help explain why The real Nox comes off differently compared to the dream version Baku had, beyond how Baku has obviously been throwing him off with his knowledge of the future.

[Scsigs]

The explanation of the premonition having things slightly different than reality being Baku's perspective both does & doesn't make a ton of sense.

It makes sense in the fact that some of these people seem a bit different than they do in reality. Probably the most would be Zero, since in his robot form, he honestly seemed like an ok guy at first until he's reintroduced in the flesh in episode 24 & is about as detached as 3. Then, it kinda varies, but the only one I can even tell a difference with is 3, who's still emotionally detached from things, but he's shown in the last episode to be hesitant when it comes to the CODE: Somnia stuff. Nox is kinda in the middle where I can see him acting more like your typical bad guy being the result of Baku's perspective, but he's also resentful of how CODE treated him when he needed them the most, so I still see the way he treated Baku as being what you'd expect from him. Him being vague is also retroactively something that makes more sense when you know about The Lady & the fact that she keeps tabs on the dreams.

Where it doesn't make sense is everything else right up until the last 2 episodes before 3 shoots Baku. Everyone else acts either like you'd expect, or how they do in reality. Even the other people Baku never met before the Zeztz stuff. How Baku would influence anyone outside of Minami in such a way that's accurate to how they are irl when he's never met them doesn't make a ton of sense.

I will say, though, that I don't know if The Lady in reality would launch an all-out attack on CODE HQ as soon as Nem wakes up. Even with the help of the Nightmares she has, it comes off as strategically not great given CODE is made up of people who hunt these things for a living.

[Frontier]

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Originally Posted by Scsigs

The explanation of the premonition having things slightly different than reality being Baku's perspective both does & doesn't make a ton of sense.

It makes sense in the fact that some of these people seem a bit different than they do in reality. Probably the most would be Zero, since in his robot form, he honestly seemed like an ok guy at first until he's reintroduced in the flesh in episode 24 & is about as detached as 3. Then, it kinda varies, but the only one I can even tell a difference with is 3, who's still emotionally detached from things, but he's shown in the last episode to be hesitant when it comes to the CODE: Somnia stuff. Nox is kinda in the middle where I can see him acting more like your typical bad guy being the result of Baku's perspective, but he's also resentful of how CODE treated him when he needed them the most, so I still see the way he treated Baku as being what you'd expect from him. Him being vague is also retroactively something that makes more sense when you know about The Lady & the fact that she keeps tabs on the dreams.

Where it doesn't make sense is everything else right up until the last 2 episodes before 3 shoots Baku. Everyone else acts either like you'd expect, or how they do in reality. Even the other people Baku never met before the Zeztz stuff. How Baku would influence anyone outside of Minami in such a way that's accurate to how they are irl when he's never met them doesn't make a ton of sense.

I will say, though, that I don't know if The Lady in reality would launch an all-out attack on CODE HQ as soon as Nem wakes up. Even with the help of the Nightmares she has, it comes off as strategically not great given CODE is made up of people who hunt these things for a living.

I think Zero in the premonition dream was playing favorites with Baku because of whatever attachment he has to Zeztz or Baku as a whole. He was genuinely trying to nurture/support him as an agent.

[Scsigs]

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Originally Posted by Frontier

I think Zero in the premonition dream was playing favorites with Baku because of whatever attachment he has to Zeztz or Baku as a whole. He was genuinely trying to nurture/support him as an agent.

Yeah, that's possible. Hence why 3 said to him to sever his last ties (or however he worded it) with Zeztz last episode.