[SPLIT LIP]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Aside from the gaia memory straps/bandoleer/vest/thing, there's really not much to Eternal that I'd call "Good."
The white body is bland, with no other designs meshed in, the flames are tacked on and ugly, and while having a cape is nice, it doesn't fit in with his...aesthetic? I don't really know.

I guess the absolute nothing that is his color scheme is what prevents me from liking him.

White can work if it's properly accented. Gold is a great accent for white. Lots of colours are good accents for white. But Eternal's design makes no sense. It has no focus or purpose. Is he supposed to look sophistacted and clean with that white? Practical and military-esque with the Maximum Drive slots looking like pouches? Exciting and stylish with the flames? Or dark and evil with his black, billowing cape? He's really a list of don'ts for character design. He's cluttered with conflicting aethetics and poor colourscheme. (white and black in even doses accented by metallic blue and yellow eyes?)

If Eternal ditched the Maximum Drive slots, turned the cape white (with some internal colour like gold or blue) swapped the flame cuffs for regular coloured ones and dialed back the crest... he'd still look meh, but he'd be salvagable. Especially if they ditched his stupid Sonic eyes and went for regular eyes, maybe smaller and angled slightly.

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Oh, if we could take into account character and not just design, then yeah.
He was a character that seriously did not need a movie just to explain his back story.
They could've done that with a pamphlet handed out during A-to-Z/Gaia Memory of Fate or something :I

It... really stings that Eternal got a whole movie and not Skull.

I mean, Skull is sleek and suave and Eternal is... a loser.

[NGW]

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

'Cept for the Sonic the Hedgehog eyes. And his gigantic headcrest. And his random blue flames. And the cape. (or make it white so it doesn't look so weird)

He's a good design if you just strip away everything that looks tacked onto an otherwise good design.

So...a white W suit?

[SPLIT LIP]

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Originally Posted by NGW

So...a white W suit?

To start. If they wanted a cool looking white rider they could have done so much better than what they did.

[NGW]

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

To start. If they wanted a cool looking white rider they could have done so much better than what they did.

While true, I don't think the overall look of Eternal is all that bad tbqh. Certain aspects, especially the flames, are kinda eh...but the overall silhouette isn't all that bad.

Anyways, about to start episode 18 of Ryuki, which is quickly starting to rival W as my favorite Rider series I've seen to date. There are a lot of interesting characters, I love all of the different riders and their designs. It's got a nice, dark mood and feel to it (though at least at this point it isn't near as dark as some have said it was, then again I'm not even halfway through yet), the theme song and opening are fantastic as well (though I do think my favorite is still W Boiled Extreme).

I think this series also more than any of the others I have watched feels like a show intended for an older audience. Like I honestly can't imagine kids tuning in on Saturday morning to watch this, it seems like something that would be on at night for an older crowd.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by Switchblade

Because he's a whiny emo bitch who runs off to sulk in his bathtub every time something happens.

Do you even know what the hell the term emo means?

Secondly, Kiva has this thing called CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT.

He is not the same person at the end of the series as he started out to be. That is something many series seem to lack with the main hero at times. Many times they are a hero at the beginning and still a hero in the end no matter what.

[Den-O]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Do you even know what the hell the term emo means?

Secondly, Kiva has this thing called CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT.

He is not the same person at the end of the series as he started out to be. That is something many series seem to lack with the main hero at times. Many times they are a hero at the beginning and still a hero in the end no matter what.

Thank you!

[SideswipePrime]

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Originally Posted by Den-O

Thank you!

This.

speaking of which, episodes 37 and 38 of Kiva

Everyone's identity is revealed! and Wataru finally got to see his mom. I found it weird how a few episodes ago she was saying how she wanted to see him, and now she's pushing him away, andTaiga...you do NOT grip your mother's throat like that! The Zanbat sword was pretty cool, interesting how Jirou, Riki, and the kid had to combine since apparently the sword is so powerful that it can possess the user. I found it weird how king just got angry and threw it into the wall...what does that accomplish? Speaking of king, Dark Kiva has appeared! and I finally know what "zetsemuts tiemu da" means. How did Jirou inexplicably know who he was? Speaking of Jirou...poor guy got a beatdown. Other than that, he had some good moments. I liked the moment he had with Wataru; telling him that he needs to face reality. 1986 wasn't as eventful as 2008 in these past 2 episodes. I did enjoy these episodes quite a bit, despite their minor flaws. Bring on the next episode!

[Den-O]

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Originally Posted by SideswipePrime

This.

speaking of which, episodes 37 and 38 of Kiva

Everyone's identity is revealed! and Wataru finally got to see his mom. I found it weird how a few episodes ago she was saying how she wanted to see him, and now she's pushing him away, andTaiga...you do NOT grip your mother's throat like that! The Zanbat sword was pretty cool, interesting how Jirou, Riki, and the kid had to combine since apparently the sword is so powerful that it can possess the user. I found it weird how king just got angry and threw it into the wall...what does that accomplish? Speaking of king, Dark Kiva has appeared! and I finally know what "zetsemuts tiemu da" means. How did Jirou inexplicably know who he was? Speaking of Jirou...poor guy got a beatdown. Other than that, he had some good moments. I liked the moment he had with Wataru; telling him that he needs to face reality. 1986 wasn't as eventful as 2008 in these past 2 episodes. I did enjoy these episodes quite a bit, despite their minor flaws. Bring on the next episode!

Zanvat is a beast. There's a reason it needs a power limiter. It's one of the most powerful rider weapons out there being used by a very powerful rider.

[Matrixbeast]

Can you really consider Kiva so powerful if he can't use the sword without the limiter or losing himself?

[Den-O]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Can you really consider Kiva so powerful if he can't use the sword without the limiter or losing himself?

Well considering he has to go straight to his final form for the tail end of the series, for every fight, because his villains are just that powerful, yes. The sword itself was only controllable by the previous King who was himself incredibly powerful. With out the limiter the left over dark influence of King would make him evil.