[NGW]

I dunno, maybe I'm just hard to please. I'm not letting the ending ruin the rest of the series for me, 10 bad minutes doesn't spoil several awesome hours afterall. And it has one of the best, most interesting cast of characters of any season of Kamen Rider I've seen to date. It just really bothers me when any form of fiction does what Ryuki did, and it is really difficult to forgive, especially for me having come off of other shows that did something very similar.

Ooh and looks like we have someone else watching through Fourze for the first time. Man that was a great show, just a lot of fun. Meteor is an awesome character, though I personally hated his Bruce Lee fight sounds.

[Dr Kain]

For me, it depends. Usually I won't let an ending bother me unless it is really bad, like Evangelion/Big O/Heroes/Decade bad. Well, it isn't fair to lump Heroes with those three, as that show was canceled. In fact, Big O's ending did not bother me that much until I watched through the entire series for the 3rd time. The same goes for Wolf's Rain and RahXephon. On the other hand, I never watched Gilgamesh a second time after seeing its ending, and I thought that show was pretty good.

However, I think these days I am more unforgiving towards bad endings than I was 10 years ago, maybe even 5 years ago, due to how ***** endings have become. Especially when it is the likes of the Utena movie.

[Matrixbeast]

I, however, am not.
I'm very critical of how my shows end. Many shows work to some kind of resolution that the previous 12/26/50/whatever episodes before it led us to. I just feel rather vindictive when a ending just spits in your face (Like Decade's).

[Sentai]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

I, however, am not.
I'm very critical of how my shows end. Many shows work to some kind of resolution that the previous 12/26/50/whatever episodes before it led us to. I just feel rather vindictive when a ending just spits in your face (Like Decade's).

Stargate SG-1 pops to mind. "Series Finale? No... You'll get this Time Dialation episode, you want the finale you have to buy the DVD. Cause fuck you."

[NGW]

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Originally Posted by Sentai

Stargate SG-1 pops to mind. "Series Finale? No... You'll get this Time Dialation episode, you want the finale you have to buy the DVD. Cause fuck you."

Exactly how I felt yesterday afternoon. Minus having to buy a DVD for an ending.

I guess Ryuki will just have to be like W and Fourze for me. Pretend that "x episode/part" never happened.

Anyways, guess I'll start OOO properly now since it's on my watch list. Not really sure what else to queue up. Anyone have suggestions?

Of the seasons I've watched I'd probably rank them like this:

Ryuki (minus the ending) > W (minus the ending) > Fourze = Wizard

To be fair it is pretty close between all of them.

Ryuki I loved the cast, loved how dark and serious it was, the stakes were high, people died, I actually cared about the riders and their motivations. W I loved the characters, the dynamic between Shotarou and Phillip, I LOVED the Sonozaki family, and the film noir feel the show had rubbed me the right way. Fourze I felt was just plain fun, the main cast were all really likable and the Zodiarts, especially the Horoscopes, were awesome awesome villains. Wizard I am enjoying, but it's..well not a complete series yet.

Well...am download Den-O now, apparently hahaha. Now Den-O, here's hoping your namesake delivers. Also, there's like...a lot of movies for Den-O, how necessary are they?

[Switchblade]

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Originally Posted by NGW

Well...am download Den-O now, apparently hahaha. Now Den-O, here's hoping your namesake delivers. Also, there's like...a lot of movies for Den-O, how necessary are they?

The first movie is canon to the series and takes place around the mid-20s. It's technically a sidestory, but there are several episodes of the series that set it up in advance so if you want to see the pay-off you need to catch the film.

The third movie serves as the epilogue for the series and does a good job of wrapping up the characters, especially Ryotaro. Mind you, it wasn't the end after all, but it was still good.

The rest of the movies are just fun stories with the characters. If you like the show enough you'll probably want to watch all of them. Even Climax Deka.

[Den-O]

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Originally Posted by Switchblade

The first movie is canon to the series and takes place around the mid-20s. It's technically a sidestory, but there are several episodes of the series that set it up in advance so if you want to see the pay-off you need to catch the film.

The third movie serves as the epilogue for the series and does a good job of wrapping up the characters, especially Ryotaro. Mind you, it wasn't the end after all, but it was still good.

The rest of the movies are just fun stories with the characters. If you like the show enough you'll probably want to watch all of them. Even Climax Deka.

The first movie is more important than a side story since the final battle of it leads directly to the birth of Climax Form . It's pretty important and those 3 episodes that lead in weave their way in and out of the main episode plots really well.

Cliamx Deka is fairly forgettable but does take place after the end of the Den-O series. Technically still cannon with the show it just happens to feature Kiva when they previously hadn't alluded to other riders before.

Final Countdown is fanatastic, easily the best of all the Den-O films. Also after the series and Climax Deka. It's was going to be the resolution of everything Den-O but the franchise was so successful that it came back for more later.

At this point you should watch the Decade episodes that crossover with Den-O's world. This is when Ryutaros' actor was replaced by the actor who portrayed his young self in the 1st film, Ore Tanjou. These episodes set-up the 4th film, Onigashima Warship. Another fun film that actually sets up some significant back story and plot for Zeronos . This film led to the Chou Den-O Trilogy being made (Episodes Red, Blue, and Yellow). Themselves forgettable to all but the most die hard Den-O fans (me).

Then we get to Let's go Kamen Riders which still works for me in Den-O continuity if you pretend that all the other riders in it are the ones out of continuity
And it's just a really good and fun movie in general. A true love letter to Ishinimori.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

I, however, am not.
I'm very critical of how my shows end. Many shows work to some kind of resolution that the previous 12/26/50/whatever episodes before it led us to. I just feel rather vindictive when a ending just spits in your face (Like Decade's).

Well Decade did not have an ending.

NGW, what is wrong with W's ending?

[NGW]

Thanks for the info on the movies guys, will definitely make sure to check out the ones suggested then, and depending on how I feel on the series, the rest after that.

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Well Decade did not have an ending.

NGW, what is wrong with W's ending?

The last episode just felt unnecessary, really its only purpose was to bring Phillip back, which...well as you can probably guess is something that bothers me, I loved the character, was sad to see him go, but I find bringing him back was a cheap cop-out, personally.

Basically episode 48 was a great way to end the series. Episode 49 was great for those that really wanted that happy ending with Phillip back, but I personally choose to ignore its existence.

[Den-O]

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Originally Posted by NGW

Thanks for the info on the movies guys, will definitely make sure to check out the ones suggested then, and depending on how I feel on the series, the rest after that.



The last episode just felt unnecessary, really its only purpose was to bring Phillip back, which...well as you can probably guess is something that bothers me, I loved the character, was sad to see him go, but I find bringing him back was a cheap cop-out, personally.

Basically episode 48 was a great way to end the series. Episode 49 was great for those that really wanted that happy ending with Phillip back, but I personally choose to ignore its existence.

I feel like I must be the only person who thought W as a series was weak overall but that the last episode was really great.