[toughfighter83]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

This isn't the Gosei footage where the cards were integral to 90% of the footage.
The Ranger key scenes are all presented in scene cuts and edits. It's so ridiculously easy to edit them out that even Saban could do it.

And no. The keys are a weak collection gimmick, even weaker than OOO's medals.

then there would be no reason for the gokaisuits in the first place, it's in their equipment, come on, you seen the key like statues in megaforce, if that means nothing then you really have problems accepting a series for what it is, they are not going to alter footage because fans dont like keys, it's still a pirate theme, it has to be used somehow even fury said they will be used.

and the gokaigun and sword are used, so how are they going to do the finisher with cards?

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by toughfighter83

then there would be no reason for the gokaisuits in the first place, it's in their equipment, come on, you seen the key like statues in megaforce, if that means nothing then you really have problems accepting a series for what it is, they are not going to alter footage because fans dont like keys, it's still a pirate theme, it has to be used somehow even fury said they will be used.

and the gokaigun and sword are used, so how are they going to do the finisher with cards?

Here's SPD's SWAT mode debut.
Notice how their finisher move (About 5:20) is not the same as Dekaranger's.

Remember when I said the Ranger keys were used in jump cuts? Yeah. Remove the jump, add in the card footage, return to Sentai footage (Which is exactly what SPD did for their SWAT blaster).

The shots of Rangers standing while holding keys aren't integral, and, ultimately, the keys are completely avoidable in footage.

This isn't about my opinion on the keys. I'm just stating that, unlike Gosei's cards, it's not impossible to avoid footage utilizing them.

[MnemonicSyntax]

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Originally Posted by toughfighter83

then there would be no reason for the gokaisuits in the first place, it's in their equipment, come on, you seen the key like statues in megaforce, if that means nothing then you really have problems accepting a series for what it is, they are not going to alter footage because fans dont like keys, it's still a pirate theme, it has to be used somehow even fury said they will be used.

and the gokaigun and sword are used, so how are they going to do the finisher with cards?

No one seems to have a problem with the keys. It would be great if you would stop saying people have a problem with a series based on a mere possibility. This isn't your first post doing so either.

The Gokai Suits will sell toys. Sure, keys will too, but again cards are more dynamic. You can do so much more with the cards than you can the keys. They're cheaper to make and frankly much more marketable. A parent isn't going to shell out money for a plastic key, so if the keys are used, they'd better come en masse or with some of the other items. A pack of cards are a different story, and don't require a whole separate toy to play with either.

Fury never said the keys will be used. The wording was that Gokai footage will be used. We don't know the extent of that. Ciara Hanna posted a picture of the Gokai Yellow suit, but it doesn't mean she was wearing it. Ciara was super excited before about her other posts concerning Megaforce Yellow, talking about wearing more yellow lately and changing her background to tigers even. This Gokai photo doesn't share that same sentiment. I'm not saying that's not her, but it could be designed to throw us off. The Gokai suits may even be a different cast altogether (not a permanent one, mind you) and are the nemesis to the Megaforce Rangers.

The "statues" in the Command Center are just that. They're too big to be keys, about five or six times larger than the Gokai keys, and do not have a joint for a waist swivel either. As it stands now, they're not keys at all.

My point in all this: Is to not get your hopes up for anything. That's it. We've seen it before, in Matrix's example above. We've seen the Jungle Fury Rangers use a different device to morph with. "Oh but the GekiChangers are part of their equipment" but in Jungle Fury, they were merely decorations.

Again, the point is to not get your hopes up. Pictures don't convey everything, and while they're worth a thousand words, sometimes those words can also be lies. (There's a new proverb for you, KRX )

[KRX]

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Originally Posted by MnemonicSyntax

No one seems to have a problem with the keys. It would be great if you would stop saying people have a problem with a series based on a mere possibility. This isn't your first post doing so either.

The Gokai Suits will sell toys. Sure, keys will too, but again cards are more dynamic. You can do so much more with the cards than you can the keys. They're cheaper to make and frankly much more marketable. A parent isn't going to shell out money for a plastic key, so if the keys are used, they'd better come en masse or with some of the other items. A pack of cards are a different story, and don't require a whole separate toy to play with either.

Fury never said the keys will be used. The wording was that Gokai footage will be used. We don't know the extent of that. Ciara Hanna posted a picture of the Gokai Yellow suit, but it doesn't mean she was wearing it. Ciara was super excited before about her other posts concerning Megaforce Yellow, talking about wearing more yellow lately and changing her background to tigers even. This Gokai photo doesn't share that same sentiment. I'm not saying that's not her, but it could be designed to throw us off. The Gokai suits may even be a different cast altogether (not a permanent one, mind you) and are the nemesis to the Megaforce Rangers.

The "statues" in the Command Center are just that. They're too big to be keys, about five or six times larger than the Gokai keys, and do not have a joint for a waist swivel either. As it stands now, they're not keys at all.

My point in all this: Is to not get your hopes up for anything. That's it. We've seen it before, in Matrix's example above. We've seen the Jungle Fury Rangers use a different device to morph with. "Oh but the GekiChangers are part of their equipment" but in Jungle Fury, they were merely decorations.

Again, the point is to not get your hopes up. Pictures don't convey everything, and while they're worth a thousand words, sometimes those words can also be lies. (There's a new proverb for you, KRX )

I could not phrase it better myself.

To the Proverb Thread!

[OPTICS]

Here are my thoughts on the characters translating over. Emma and Gia are perfectly fine. Noah is going to have to give the color blue up to Jake, not just because Noah is more like a wimp, but Gokai Blue and Gokai Yellow have a connection/scenes together. Jake likes Gia, so thats how BOA translated the sibling Goseigers scenes over. I think the way MF S1 will end is with them losing their powers and going off to to be trained by... I don't know, Robo Knight, AkaRed or some past ranger. This would give them a change in fighting style and could also possibly change part of their personalities.

As for the ranger keys being used in the megazord cockpit, they could go Samurai and use new footage completely.

[toughfighter83]

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Originally Posted by MnemonicSyntax

Fury never said the keys will be used. The wording was that Gokai footage will be used. We don't know the extent of that. Ciara Hanna posted a picture of the Gokai Yellow suit, but it doesn't mean she was wearing it. Ciara was super excited before about her other posts concerning Megaforce Yellow, talking about wearing more yellow lately and changing her background to tigers even. This Gokai photo doesn't share that same sentiment. I'm not saying that's not her, but it could be designed to throw us off. The Gokai suits may even be a different cast altogether (not a permanent one, mind you) and are the nemesis to the Megaforce Rangers.

The "statues" in the Command Center are just that. They're too big to be keys, about five or six times larger than the Gokai keys, and do not have a joint for a waist swivel either. As it stands now, they're not keys at all.

My point in all this: Is to not get your hopes up for anything. That's it. We've seen it before, in Matrix's example above. We've seen the Jungle Fury Rangers use a different device to morph with. "Oh but the GekiChangers are part of their equipment" but in Jungle Fury, they were merely decorations.

Again, the point is to not get your hopes up. Pictures don't convey everything, and while they're worth a thousand words, sometimes those words can also be lies. (There's a new proverb for you, KRX )

you are in denial, here's the confirmed info from fury: For more information on the Gokai Suits usage, check out the article on RangerCrew Blog.

This is what we know of Super Megaforce (confirmed by my sources):
1. Goseiger Suits are the primary suits for Power Rangers Megaforce and Super Megaforce.
2. Super Megaforce will feature Gokaiger Suits, Footage, and Content (Zords, Weapons..etc).
3. Super Megaforce will concentrate on Gokaiger footage over Goseiger footage
4. Super Megaforce will have a Silver Ranger. There is no confirmation on whether this is Gokai Silver or an original Ranger. Based on Gokaiger footage usage, we will most likely see Gokai Silver.
5. Ranger Keys will be used in Super Megaforce. There is no confirmation on the usage. Gokai Silver and/or the Gokai Suits will probably use the keys to match footage.

if you are saying his sources mean nothing then believe what you want:
http://blog.samuraicast.com/


fury was pretty much right on about megaforce, so i dont know how you would discredit him about super megaforce.

[MnemonicSyntax]

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Originally Posted by toughfighter83

you are in denial, here's the confirmed info from fury: For more information on the Gokai Suits usage, check out the article on RangerCrew Blog.

This is what we know of Super Megaforce (confirmed by my sources):
1. Goseiger Suits are the primary suits for Power Rangers Megaforce and Super Megaforce.
2. Super Megaforce will feature Gokaiger Suits, Footage, and Content (Zords, Weapons..etc).
3. Super Megaforce will concentrate on Gokaiger footage over Goseiger footage
4. Super Megaforce will have a Silver Ranger. There is no confirmation on whether this is Gokai Silver or an original Ranger. Based on Gokaiger footage usage, we will most likely see Gokai Silver.
5. Ranger Keys will be used in Super Megaforce. There is no confirmation on the usage. Gokai Silver and/or the Gokai Suits will probably use the keys to match footage.

if you are saying his sources mean nothing then believe what you want:
http://blog.samuraicast.com/


fury was pretty much right on about megaforce, so i dont know how you would discredit him about super megaforce.

I'm not in denial. You should choose your words more carefully. I'm being cautious is all.

Take the time to reread my post again please, and this time try to be more open minded about it, as I'm just stating that what we know, may not be what we think we know.

And Fury's been wrong in the past, but again, I'm not saying he's wrong or anyone is wrong. I'm saying to not get your hopes up.

How can I be in denial when I'm not sure on anything?

EDIT: Do you not see how vague everything you posted is? "More Gokai-than-Gosei footage" could just be the "Legacy Ranger" combat, where they "Gokai Change" into a past ranger and fight using those powers. That in itself is more footage than even the time they spent fighting as "Pirate Rangers" themselves, so it's more than Gosei footage for sure. Also, "featuring Gokai suits, Footage and Content (Zords, Weapons, etc.)" doesn't mean that the Megaforce Rangers will have those powers or use those Zords. I'd think it foolish for them not to, but once again, my point is that just because it says footage will be used, it may not be in the capacity we think.

Sheesh. All this over some damn toy keys. I don't have a hope either way if we get the keys or not, or they stick with the cards, because I'm not purchasing any of them. But the original point was that the keys are more marketable then the cards, and you can't deny that.

[Kiryu]

You guys honestly think Bandai won't use this opportunity to shell out more merchandise and put another collect'em all gimmick on the market? We're gonna get the keys one way or another.

[FormerTitanium]

Hey as long as we get Gokai-oh and GoZyuJin in a worthy toy form I'm down.

[cb1]

some gokaiger footage is too voilce for young kids in usa