[Den-O]

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

Yeah, I probably missed that due to lack of subtitles.

He was talking about Super Hero Taisen anyway. Have you seen that one yet?

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But yeah, great movie, all the riders in rollcall were badass, seeing Shotaro and Philip again was nice, and TaMaShii was nifty. Also probably one of the better combo jingles. But really, it's bitter sweet that the ultimate ending to Den-O lacks Ryoutaro in any fashion. Especially when you realise that Ryuutaros, Kintaros and Urataros all possessed Momotaros... so it's a rider that's an Imagin possessed by other Imagin... begs the question of why Ryoutaro was ever even needed.

I love Let's Go. It's just such a fun mindless movie with characters I truly love. And TaMaShii combo is just so sweet. 2 of my favorite riders sorta rolled into one. Momo medal for the win!

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You know what I would have done? Given Koutaro the original Den-O belt. Then add Teddy to Climax Form Seig-style. (or have Climax form just weild the Teddy sword) That way we had the ultimate Den-O in the final battle.

Also, why does the new belt have the coloured buttons if New Den-O only has one form?

That would have been awesome! Unfortunately even the actor who played young Ryutaro bailed on the franchise so now Momotaros is Den-O. I love Ryutaro to death but at the end of the day, if Momo is forever Den-O now, I can deal. And New Den-O's belt has the buttons because...... easy repaint/reuse of a belt? I guess? Honestly they probably just forogt about them and never bothered to change it

[ryan]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

All the Riders came from the memories of the people. I don't know how that worked if the altered future meant that no Riders beyond 1 and 2 were ever created, but...Decade.

That really bothered me about how that movie ended. I like your explanation.

Continiuity issues? Cuz Decade.

[SPLIT LIP]

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Originally Posted by Den-O

He was talking about Super Hero Taisen anyway. Have you seen that one yet?

I love Let's Go. It's just such a fun mindless movie with characters I truly love. And TaMaShii combo is just so sweet. 2 of my favorite riders sorta rolled into one. Momo medal for the win!

That would have been awesome! Unfortunately even the actor who played young Ryutaro bailed on the franchise so now Momotaros is Den-O. I love Ryutaro to death but at the end of the day, if Momo is forever Den-O now, I can deal. And New Den-O's belt has the buttons because...... easy repaint/reuse of a belt? I guess? Honestly they probably just forogt about them and never bothered to change it

I wouldn't mind Momo as Den-O at all if he properly achieved the title because, let's be honest, he's been Den-O from practically day one. He was the driving force, he never faltered. I don't think he once ever turned down a fight that didn't involve a dog. Which is why I like Ryoutaro as Den-O because Momotaros basically sculpted him into a fighter. A great coming of age story where a young man is shaped by an aloof mentor to become a brave warrior... only for the mentor to eventually become said warrior? If they had given Ryoutaro a proper sendoff, even just a throwaway line about how he was living with his sister happily and Momotaros took up the cause in his place. Something, anything. I didn't here "Ryoutaro" mentioned once. (figures he all but vanishes from the planet as soon as I learn how to spell his name)

So yeah, where to next? I figure if I start my next series now I'll be done in time for the new Rider series to start.

[Switchblade]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

The Rider chanting was a cooler scene than all of SHT.

I wish they'd done that for all the Riders, just to see the crowd awkwardly go "Um... you..." when Shin popped out.

[RiderSkyward]

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

Also, why does the new belt have the coloured buttons if New Den-O only has one form?

Isn't it kind of weird that the old belt has the buttons though?

It always bugged me that out of all of the imagins, those four (or five if you want to count seige) just happen to possess him, and also conveniently have their own train carriages and colours matching the buttons. Unless I'm remembering my Den-O wrong, I'm pretty sure they just happened to choose him because he's a singularity point?

It's kind of like Kiva in that respect, has the whole 'this stuff exists because we say it does'. That's why I'm glad that more recent series actually try to explain it a little more.

[SPLIT LIP]

Yeah, we talked about it before. I think the buttons should have just been grey until he was posessed, or have the Imagin only become their colours after becoming Den-O.

[RiderSkyward]

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

Yeah, we talked about it before. I think the buttons should have just been grey until he was posessed, or have the Imagin only become their colours after becoming Den-O.

Ah my bad, should really read this thread more =p

Yeah that would have made more sense, I think the series just needed a bit more logic (or at least to stick to one) to make it better.

[SideswipePrime]

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

Yeah, I probably missed that due to lack of subtitles.

But yeah, great movie, all the riders in rollcall were badass, seeing Shotaro and Philip again was nice, and TaMaShii was nifty. Also probably one of the better combo jingles. But really, it's bitter sweet that the ultimate ending to Den-O lacks Ryoutaro in any fashion. Especially when you realise that Ryuutaros, Kintaros and Urataros all possessed Momotaros... so it's a rider that's an Imagin possessed by other Imagin... begs the question of why Ryoutaro was ever even needed.

You know what I would have done? Given Koutaro the original Den-O belt. Then add Teddy to Climax Form Seig-style. (or have Climax form just weild the Teddy sword) That way we had the ultimate Den-O in the final battle.

Also, why does the new belt have the coloured buttons if New Den-O only has one form?

1. I like this idea.

2. Because easy repaints.

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

I wouldn't mind Momo as Den-O at all if he properly achieved the title because, let's be honest, he's been Den-O from practically day one. He was the driving force, he never faltered. I don't think he once ever turned down a fight that didn't involve a dog. Which is why I like Ryoutaro as Den-O because Momotaros basically sculpted him into a fighter. A great coming of age story where a young man is shaped by an aloof mentor to become a brave warrior... only for the mentor to eventually become said warrior? If they had given Ryoutaro a proper sendoff, even just a throwaway line about how he was living with his sister happily and Momotaros took up the cause in his place. Something, anything. I didn't here "Ryoutaro" mentioned once. (figures he all but vanishes from the planet as soon as I learn how to spell his name)

So yeah, where to next? I figure if I start my next series now I'll be done in time for the new Rider series to start.

I say go in order and do Kiva next.

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Originally Posted by RiderSkyward

Isn't it kind of weird that the old belt has the buttons though?

It always bugged me that out of all of the imagins, those four (or five if you want to count seige) just happen to possess him, and also conveniently have their own train carriages and colours matching the buttons. Unless I'm remembering my Den-O wrong, I'm pretty sure they just happened to choose him because he's a singularity point?

It's kind of like Kiva in that respect, has the whole 'this stuff exists because we say it does'. That's why I'm glad that more recent series actually try to explain it a little more.

Yeah...that kinda bugged me.

[Matrixbeast]

If you're looking for a new series, why not try and give Blade a chance?
I know, bland design and all that, but it's a pretty good series.

[Joyful Citrus]

I'm currently watching Fourze and W, which are my first Kamen Rider series. I'm digging both so far, but I find W to be particularly fantastic. Hard-boiled detective super-heroes with a pseudo film-noir style? Why the hell didn't I start watching this series earlier.