[spikebuster]

i am so glad i decided to skip super megaforce.

[MnemonicSyntax]

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Originally Posted by Galvantula

I've had views similar to Kickback's regarding Jonathon. Hearing this just reminds me that he will never care about anything other than getting a quick buck from the little kiddies that could care less about quality story telling.

As melodramatic as it sounds JT has to be fired if this brand is to survive. Giving PR back to Disney is a death sentence since they've proven time and time again Power Rangers wasn't their cup of tea. We've hit a dark time for Tokusatsu my friends. It's either Jon gets fired or Power Rangers dies. It's probably not that black and white, but at this point I'm viewing toku with the same glasses of jade Kenji Inafune sees the game inducsidy.

It has gotten to that point with me.

With you. Not with the target demographic. Trust me, Power Rangers will go on without you watching or purchasing any of the merchandise.

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Originally Posted by GoseiWonder

Right now, I'm rather curious as to why Saban can't skip seasons. I know it's because of contracts with Toei that go back to 1993, but why would Haim sign "yes" to never skipping Sentai seasons? Furthermore, why would Toei need him to never skip a season?

It makes sense to agree to something like that for footage sake alone. So while the "money" answer is part of it, Saban was panicing at the end of "Zyu 2" as the footage was running out. That's when he realized that kids do associate with the suits, but associate with colors more, and so changing to a new theme every season would still help kids know the franchise, but continue to keep it fresh.

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Originally Posted by Starscream Gaga

So because adult fans, a tiny percentage of the viewers, are unhappy with the quality of the show, then Power Rangers is DOOMED? Really? I'm surprised that people are reaching that conclusion and I come from Transformers fandom that pretty much coined the "RUINED FOREVER" phrase.
Just ignore the fact that Samurai was the most popular Power Rangers has been in about decade, right? PR is in the best financial state is has been in a long time. It doesn't matter that we're unhappy, because the people that makes them the most money are very happy. Yes, the quality of Megaforce and Samurai isn't spectacular, but kids are loving it and buying the merchandise and watching the show and that's what makes something successful when it all comes down to it. I understand that it sucks that Power Rangers has really been down in quality lately, but I think its in a better position when it comes to success then it has been in a LONG time.

Absolutely agreed.

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Originally Posted by GoseiWonder

But wouldn't skipping a season save money?
We could skip Go-Busters and jump to Kyoryuger, because kids love dinosaurs and that would bring in cash because dinosaurs are cool and the popularity of dinosaurs is why Zyranger was the first Sentai to get adapted instead of Jetman (which was a runner up, from what I've read, but was dropped because dinosaurs).

But then again I'm not an Economics Major, so I probably know diddly-squat about this.

Well, I'm very glad you said it. Obviously, Saban knows what he's doing here.

Kids also love Spies too. There's Spy Toys all over the toy aisle at your local Walmart, Totally Spies was a cartoon that pandered to girls as well as boys, and even back to the days of James Bond Jr. You mix that with animals that turn into cars and it's going to be a win. I won't deny that boys love dinosaurs more but it's still Power Rangers, and Saban knows that the kids will identify with that first and pick up with whatever theme goes along with it. And as always: ROBOT TOYS THAT COMBINE WITH OTHER ROBOT TOYS!

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Now onto my thoughts on this. I keep saying this, but I feel it's always worth repeating. We've grown up. Our tastes and maturity levels have changed. I absolutely love the Centurions franchise, both now and as a child, but recently I went back to watch all the episodes and wow, it's super cheesy! I couldn't even get through all the episodes. I was bored!

Food for thought here. We've grown up. We can't expect a franchise aimed at kids to join us, and leave the children behind, that would be suicide.

[Battlizer]

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Originally Posted by MnemonicSyntax

Now onto my thoughts on this. I keep saying this, but I feel it's always worth repeating. We've grown up. Our tastes and maturity levels have changed. I absolutely love the Centurions franchise, both now and as a child, but recently I went back to watch all the episodes and wow, it's super cheesy! I couldn't even get through all the episodes. I was bored!

Food for thought here. We've grown up. We can't expect a franchise aimed at kids to join us, and leave the children behind, that would be suicide.

While I appreciate you keeping a cool head among all the people freaking out...but I can't help but disagree with nearly everything you say. I mean who says it has to leave children behind?

It IS possible to cater to both. It's been done before.

[decepticusprime]

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Originally Posted by GoseiWonder

Right now, I'm rather curious as to why Saban can't skip seasons. I know it's because of contracts with Toei that go back to 1993, but why would Haim sign "yes" to never skipping Sentai seasons? Furthermore, why would Toei need him to never skip a season?

This. When Saban reaquired the liscense, would new contracts not need to be made with Toei? and technically they have skipped 1 1/2 series( Yes they used elements like the zord battles) In Dai rangers and Kaku.

[GoseiWonder]

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Originally Posted by decepticusprime

This. When Saban reaquired the liscense, would new contracts not need to be made with Toei? and technically they have skipped 1 1/2 series( Yes they used elements like the zord battles) In Dai rangers and Kaku.

And the Disney era 32 episode system CAN be done without to much error. Jungle Fury and RPM handled the limitations really well IMO, allowing Nickelodeon to keep their smaller seasons while still having a well paced one year story.

Sadly there's just too much red tape apparently.

[MnemonicSyntax]

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Originally Posted by Battlizer

While I appreciate you keeping a cool head among all the people freaking out...but I can't help but disagree with nearly everything you say. I mean who says it has to leave children behind?

It IS possible to cater to both. It's been done before.

Of course it has. But again, when that happened, it was years ago. I still stand by the fact that we've grown up since then.

I'm not saying some seasons didn't delivered better than others, that's a given. But, look at the "formula" we have now: Almost same exact theme song, almost same exact morph command, same season labeling (Super). It worked for Samurai, and Saban knows that, and chances are that it'll be the dynamic going forward.

Regardless, it won't kill Power Rangers. It may alienate the older fanbase, but we're the extreme minority here.

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Originally Posted by decepticusprime

This. When Saban reaquired the liscense, would new contracts not need to be made with Toei? and technically they have skipped 1 1/2 series( Yes they used elements like the zord battles) In Dai rangers and Kaku.

It depends. If the original contract stated something like "As long as Saban Entertainment/Brands etc. holds the rights to the name Power Rangers, then blah blah blah is required."

Also, I read that a certain amount of footage was required to be used to be considered an "adapatation." Zord and Megazord battles should cover the 10 or 15% that I believe it's supposed to be.

[Battlizer]

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Originally Posted by MnemonicSyntax

Of course it has. But again, when that happened, it was years ago. I still stand by the fact that we've grown up since then.

I'm not saying some seasons didn't delivered better than others, that's a given. But, look at the "formula" we have now: Almost same exact theme song, almost same exact morph command, same season labeling (Super). It worked for Samurai, and Saban knows that, and chances are that it'll be the dynamic going forward.

Regardless, it won't kill Power Rangers. It may alienate the older fanbase, but we're the extreme minority here.

Other shows that run currently, manage to pull it off, so...

I know sticking with their current formula won't ruin PR financiallu any tie soon. Though honestly, I don't see how getting ambitous and shaking things up a bit would affect it either. I mean, kids would still get their superheroes and mecha beating the stuffing out of monsters, right?

Honestly as disappointed as I am with the possibility of Erin and Rhett not coming back, I'm sprt of hoping they have some sort of production problems. Not for any malicious reason, but whenever they have some production problems, that's when they tend to shake things up.

Oh, this might be our final season? Let's go out with a bang. Power Rangers In Space.

Oho man, we just unexpectedly made a load of money off of that? Let's keep it in space. Power Rangers Lost Galaxy.

Wow, this cast can actually act and work well together?! Let's make this really good. Power Rangers Time Force.

Ahaha, Disney doesn't care anymore, let's do whatever the hell we want. Power Rangers R.P.M.

[WhiteRanger]

ok i was thinking yes RPM was good Dark end every thing but i just realised it might end up being 3 to 4 years till we get a season by saban brands that ant MMPR like. cause remember it took 3 season to get zeo one ok to some the worst to most called turbo then in space then from there we gotten good season so remeber it might take a while for use to get the season like we want to happen that good to both fans and kids.

[losondro]

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Originally Posted by WhiteRanger

ok i was thinking yes RPM was good Dark end every thing but i just realised it might end up being 3 to 4 years till we get a season by saban brands that ant MMPR like. cause remember it took 3 season to get zeo one ok to some the worst to most called turbo then in space then from there we gotten good season so remeber it might take a while for use to get the season like we want to happen that good to both fans and kids.

so basically you're saying saban needs the momentum to get some good seasons later?

[WhiteRanger]

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Originally Posted by losondro

so basically you're saying saban needs the momentum to get some good seasons later?

yea cause if you thining about it it end up going down hill so he need to do another thing he did when he was in that state before