[Matrixbeast]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fortune

I know I darn sure will TJ actually deserves it and was a very VERY good ranger

The stigma of Turbo is a heavy burden, even if we're voting for the In Space iteration.
TJ deserves the spot and he's an excellent ranger, a lot better than others give him credit for.

[conundrum]

This one's really going down to the wire isn't it? I love close matches like this.

[ljacone]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Implying I said anything about RPM?

Nope, stating a fact. If you want to toss out MMPR because the team was goody goodies, then toss out 99% of all the Rangers ever.. Just the way it is. I honestly think that Billy is the correct choice here.

[Fortune]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

The stigma of Turbo is a heavy burden, even if we're voting for the In Space iteration.
TJ deserves the spot and he's an excellent ranger, a lot better than others give him credit for.

Heck I think Turbo wasnt that bad. I enjoyed it but maybe its because I didn't care about the whole "its cool to hate Justin just to hate Justin".

I think it was amazing the way TJ just took over and became leader he put the team on his shoulders and ran with it. He helped save Tommy and others before EVER having powers. Heck with no help from any past rangers this guy led a team that included an 8 year old and saved the world.

When the time came he went in to space and accepted his new role as blue with a smile.He didnt piss and whine about it. He is very clearly a clever thinker and strategist as proven when he decided to beat Psycho Blue by having all the rangers be Blue

[Matrixbeast]

Quote:

Originally Posted by ljacone

Nope, stating a fact. If you want to toss out MMPR because the team was goody goodies, then toss out 99% of all the Rangers ever.

Incorrect. You're taking what I stated and then went 3 steps father than what was said.
There's a difference between being a character and being a walking cliche.
There is nothing to Billy beyond "He's smart."
It doesn't matter how dull other teams are or how many stereotypes they played straight. They were all better, character wise, than the original MMPR cast.

Your entire first statement, the "Fact" (Complaining about MMPR then touting RPM) isn't even in relation to what you just said (Now it's discrediting the team because of their poor writing means I should discredit all other teams).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fortune

Heck I think Turbo wasnt that bad. I enjoyed it but maybe its because I didn't care about the whole "its cool to hate Justin just to hate Justin".

I think it was amazing the way TJ just took over and became leader he put the team on his shoulders and ran with it. He helped save Tommy and others before EVER having powers. Heck with no help from any past rangers this guy led a team that included an 8 year old and saved the world.

When the time came he went in to space and accepted his new role as blue with a smile.He didnt piss and whine about it. He is very clearly a clever thinker and strategist as proven when he decided to beat Psycho Blue by having all the rangers be Blue

I agree.

[Locke]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Incorrect. You're taking what I stated and then went 3 steps father than what was said.
There's a difference between being a character and being a walking cliche.
There is nothing to Billy beyond "He's smart."
It doesn't matter how dull other teams are or how many stereotypes they played straight. They were all better, character wise, than the original MMPR cast.

Your entire first statement, the "Fact" (Complaining about MMPR then touting RPM) isn't even in relation to what you just said (Now it's discrediting the team because of their poor writing means I should discredit all other teams).

While I agree that MMPR nostalgia is the cancer of the Power Rangers fandom and that MMPR featured some of the worst acting and writing of Power Rangers ever, Billy was a huge inspiration to me as a kid when I didn't know better and I stick by my reason for voting him because of such.

Flynn really isn't that great of a Ranger honestly, I really love the guy don't misunderstand me and he's done some great things during his run as Ranger but I really don't think so many people would be looking for reasons to like him as hard as they are doing if he wasn't in RPM.

[Matrixbeast]

I really don't mind Billy. I honestly don't.
Hell, he's one of the few characters from the original MMPR cast that I still like (The other being Zach).
But Billy had nothing to him beyond "He's a geek."

[Locke]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

I really don't mind Billy. I honestly don't.
Hell, he's one of the few characters from the original MMPR cast that I still like (The other being Zach).
But Billy had nothing to him beyond "He's a geek."

True that. I voted for completely meta reasons.

[ljacone]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Incorrect. You're taking what I stated and then went 3 steps father than what was said.
There's a difference between being a character and being a walking cliche.
There is nothing to Billy beyond "He's smart."
It doesn't matter how dull other teams are or how many stereotypes they played straight. They were all better, character wise, than the original MMPR cast.

Your entire first statement, the "Fact" (Complaining about MMPR then touting RPM) isn't even in relation to what you just said (Now it's discrediting the team because of their poor writing means I should discredit all other teams).

Why are you getting so defensive? There's a lot more to Billy than "he's smart" just because he had 4 full seasons of development, more than any other character in this Blue competition. You're the one who complained about MMPR being goody goodies and stereotypes, when that is the majority of the Zordon era.

And your defense makes no sense, because this is not a competition of "who is the most interesting Rangers," it's who would make the best Rangers for an All Star team. And that's Billy Cranston when it comes to Blue Rangers.

It's irrelevant since Flynn will win this due to "He's Scottish" which is beyond meaningless, and anti-MMPR sentiment.

[ljacone]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locke

Flynn really isn't that great of a Ranger honestly, I really love the guy don't misunderstand me and he's done some great things during his run as Ranger but I really don't think so many people would be looking for reasons to like him as hard as they are doing if he wasn't in RPM.

Emphasis Mine.