[Locke]

The reason I double post is because it seems most people don't use the subscribe feature and as I'm from the UK there aren't a lot of people who are on when I post. As such if I didn't bump threads then all these threads would probably go unnoticed and die. I edit together a few hours worth of posts into one but if there is still no action in the thread I give it a little nudge, again. The rare times I don't do that is when I write a long single post, because then if I tack that on the end of a post that already has like four episodes worth of thoughts then I've built a bloody wall.

Anyway, I suppose you shouldn't expect a climactic battle in Kuuga which had maybe five good fights in 49 episodes and that is a stretch. But yeah the horrible time jumps for the last ten or so episodes were infuriating as well, I was hoping Godai would at least die in the end so he had something to do.

[ZeoRangerV]

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Originally Posted by Locke

The reason I double post is because it seems most people don't use the subscribe feature and as I'm from the UK there aren't a lot of people who are on when I post. As such if I didn't bump threads then all these threads would probably go unnoticed and die.

This thread has been going since the site started, it isn't going to die any time soon.

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by ZeoRangerV

This thread has been going since the site started, it isn't going to die any time soon.

The American Edition one certainly does, though

[Locke]

Yeah I've been talking to myself in the American Toku thread for about a week now

[ZeoRangerV]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

The American Edition one certainly does, though

The few of us that do post there try to keep it alive
But yes, even the Sentai edition one doesn't get anywhere as much attention as the Rider one does.

[Locke]

This one probably has attention because I'm bumping it six times a day

[Kagezuno]

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Originally Posted by Locke

Episode 48 was hell of a lot better. If there is something Kuuga does well, that is heart string tugging. Sure Godai himself may have the subtly and nuance of a firework and be a terrible protagonist but luckily the rest of the cast are there to emote the episode. And these episodes are always so well written and directed, it even makes the terrible actors in this series feel like they need an Oscar.
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Also Kuuga got a new form which badass looked pretty badass but sadly, even despite all the set up, the final battle just involved the two wailing on each other in the snow. With SYMBOLISM Godai in black the other monster in white.

I found watching through Kuuga that you can really tell they're working out just what in the hell Kamen Rider in the 21st century is going to be right on screen. It's interesting for that reason, but there are a lot of a choices made and roads taken that really seem a little daft in retrospect.

There's some real effort made to make sure you feel like every part of the supporting cast is important and not just an appendage to the hero, but it happens at the expense of getting much inside the hero's POV. There's still some of the dark, ghoulish, gory stuff from the Amemiya movies and some effort to sell them as terrifying, some "adventurous" (ahem) filming choices . . .but yeah. The formula's not in place yet, and it's kinda fascinating to see.

I'm watching Agito right now and you can definitely tell some of the excesses of Kuuga have been set aside and the common Heisei Rider stuff is coming to the form.

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by Kagezuno

I found watching through Kuuga that you can really tell they're working out just what in the hell Kamen Rider in the 21st century is going to be right on screen. It's interesting for that reason, but there are a lot of a choices made and roads taken that really seem a little daft in retrospect.

There's some real effort made to make sure you feel like every part of the supporting cast is important and not just an appendage to the hero, but it happens at the expense of getting much inside the hero's POV. There's still some of the dark, ghoulish, gory stuff from the Amemiya movies and some effort to sell them as terrifying, some "adventurous" (ahem) filming choices . . .but yeah. The formula's not in place yet, and it's kinda fascinating to see.

I'm watching Agito right now and you can definitely tell some of the excesses of Kuuga have been set aside and the common Heisei Rider stuff is coming to the form.

It's a big problem when your Rider is the least interesting thing in your show. Not only is Godai one note and boring, but they actually gave the police an active way to fight so they actually killed some of the UL without need for superpowers (which says so much for Kuuga) and since they gave nearly every side character a defined, specific purpose rather than Godai's 'kill stuff' singular purpose he really felt useless at times.

Especially considering most of the exploration of his powers and the mythos is done through the side characters rather than Godai himself which is ridiculous.

[Kagezuno]

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Originally Posted by Locke

It's a big problem when your Rider is the least interesting thing in your show. Not only is Godai one note and boring, but they actually gave the police an active way to fight so they actually killed some of the UL without need for superpowers (which says so much for Kuuga) and since they gave nearly every side character a defined, specific purpose rather than Godai's 'kill stuff' singular purpose he really felt useless at times.

Especially considering most of the exploration of his powers and the mythos is done through the side characters rather than Godai himself which is ridiculous.

That was something I found a lot at times--the people writing Kuuga's attitude towards the actual rider action seemed to be "shit, do we have to?" sometimes. It feels on occasion like a drama series where people in weird costumes show up briefly and kill people, then right back to the drama.

Very odd show. On the other hand, Kuuga is a lot of fun to play in Battride War (after you put in a lot of work to level him up)

Agito seems to be sorta having its cake and eating it to, as the main Rider is a bit of a cipher so far, but there's 2-3 others in the mix as well, so the action/character quotient is working with the need for Rider action, rather than against it. That's . . .progress? Maybe?

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by Kagezuno

That was something I found a lot at times--the people writing Kuuga's attitude towards the actual rider action seemed to be "shit, do we have to?" sometimes. It feels on occasion like a drama series where people in weird costumes show up briefly and kill people, then right back to the drama.

Very odd show. On the other hand, Kuuga is a lot of fun to play in Battride War (after you put in a lot of work to level him up)

Agito seems to be sorta having its cake and eating it to, as the main Rider is a bit of a cipher so far, but there's 2-3 others in the mix as well, so the action/character quotient is working with the need for Rider action, rather than against it. That's . . .progress? Maybe?

Most fights were only a few minutes long, and tacked onto the very beginning and very end of the episode with Godai responding so little to what happened once out of the suit, along with other shit like super healing, you could cut out all the fighting and you wouldn't notice.

Meanwhile five episodes into Fourze and really liking it. Not really a big fan of goofy series but the tone fits the show. I like how Gen isn't just perfect with his powers immediately, he actually goes to train before he can use the switches effectively making the most of the fact he has a teleporter to the moon. I also like how his attitude makes badass even the most seemingly goofy switches, I just really like him in general.

Same with the villains, yeah they may have first world problems, but they feel like problems high schoolers would have and the show manages to make a lot of sense of its high school setting and uses it beyond a novelty.

It does it in a very different way, but Fourze world builds as well as Kuuga did and that is impressive.

I also checked out episode 2 of OOOs as I planned to watch that with Fourze once I'd finished with SPD. However nothing really stood out for me in the episode, in terms of the story or characters, it all just felt a little tired and samey compared to what I've already seen so far. Hell I'm not sure I even get all the medal stuff even with Ankh's simplified explanation.

Then again, man the action sequence was fucking EPIC.