Thus far, what do we think?

Matrixbeast · 06-27-2013, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sentai

It has one already.

Don't lie to me.
Saying "Deboss might be revived" a story does not make. That's just a plot hook that the story fish has been avoiding since day one.

Locke · 06-27-2013, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Don't lie to me.
Saying "Deboss might be revived" a story does not make. That's just a plot hook that the story fish has been avoiding since day one.

It's funny because Kyoryuger embodies everything Sentai Elitists condemn Power Rangers for. I guess I should appreciate Kyoryuger on the sweet irony.

Sentai · 06-27-2013, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Don't lie to me.
Saying "Deboss might be revived" a story does not make. That's just a plot hook that the story fish has been avoiding since day one.

Don't like the show then don't watch the show, but don't simplify everything just to suit you. This has plenty of story.

What happened to Daigo's father
What did Ian's friend find exactly and why does it shimmer like Daigo's necklace
Deboss waking up

It has plenty of story. You just don't like it. Which is fine, I don't like Kamen Rider before Kuuga. You do.

Sorry >_> I just really love this show. Alot.

Matrixbeast · 06-27-2013, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sentai

Don't like the show then don't watch the show, but don't simplify everything just to suit you. This has plenty of story.

What happened to Daigo's father
What did Ian's friend find exactly and why does it shimmer like Daigo's necklace
Deboss waking up

It has plenty of story. You just don't like it. Which is fine, I don't like Kamen Rider before Kuuga. You do.

First off, I've never seen Kuuga.
Second, this is the same kind of hyper-simplified argument you were giving against Black during the LWW poll.
Third, don't take everything so seriously.
Fourth, why do you think I'm watching this show?

I see a glimpse of something interesting, but rather than expand upon it, the next episode 4 episodes is just goofing around before we get another random plot thread that's dropped for more goofing off.
It's unruly, and I want this show to be something more. I'm not wanting a complete tonal shift, I know what this show is, and I can handle funny and goofy. I just want this show to know what it wants to do, rather than just implement plot hooks and leave them dangling to be resolved later.

The only plot that seems to be treated with any sense of importance is Ian and Aigaron's, and the glimmering stones. While it's likely that it might tie into Daigo and his father's story, we don't have any reason to pursue it since the show wants to introduce more rangers instead.

Stop trying to paint everything as black or white. "Dislike it, don't watch it."
Why don't you ask why someone dislikes it, rather than just telling them to get out the room?

I dislike this show because I see one of the most interesting rangers casts based solely on their character summaries alone, with an interesting villain motif, and a fairly intriguing story, but the show would rather dance around (Literally), then expand upon those. It feels like a waste of potential. We're only 18 episodes in, and I'm hoping that by 25 the other two Kyoryugers will be introduced so that we can actually build on our cast and story, rather than just expand it.

Switchblade · 06-27-2013, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sentai

The show is perfect. It really is. It has heart, and humor, and isn't Go-Busters! What do you people want x . x

Villains that aren't annoying.

Or lame.

Or both.

Or both while covered in pink hearts.

Souji and Ian to do something outside of their spotlight episodes.

A universe that doesn't revolve around King and a sun that doesn't rise and set from his ass.

Sentai · 06-27-2013, 07:43 PM

I get what your saying. You want a deeper, richer plot. But that isn't what this series is about. Not after what they tried with Go-Busters. You can tell they made this series to be more fun than anything else. Look at Candi. And I defend it so hard because I like what they're doing. I wouldn't want it every season, it'd be to much and turn me off. But I love it now. And King isn't perfect, he proved that with Gray. And the series isn't over yet. It might surprise you.

I apologize. Just really bad at framing arguements.

SPLIT LIP · 06-27-2013, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sentai

I get what your saying. You want a deeper, richer plot. But that isn't what this series is about.

Every show that wants to be taken seriously in any capacity should be about that. Even the ones that don't. Plot is not some extra element you add to a TV show. Even bad movies and shows need plot.

It doesn't need to be magna-deep, but if plot is not a consideration that's basically saying Kyoryuger is on the level of Spongebob.

Sentai · 06-27-2013, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

Every show that wants to be taken seriously in any capacity should be about that. Even the ones that don't. Plot is not some extra element you add to a TV show. Even bad movies and shows need plot.

It doesn't need to be magna-deep, but if plot is not a consideration that's basically saying Kyoryuger is on the level of Spongebob.

You know, I've never really gotten into Spongebob. I've seen a few episodes, seen the movie, but never really got into it.

Anyway.

I see your point. I really do. But they'll open it up. I think they will, anyway.

ZeoRangerV · 06-28-2013, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sentai

And lo a great Beast had awoken and washed the world within his rage.... Nothing will happen to Candi and Lucky because they are perfect the way they are >/

Maybe to you. I just find them annoying and pointless. The novelty of a "happy" themed villain completely wore off when they started shoehorning her into as many episodes as they can.

Which is why I'd find a constantly happy villain having to feel a negative emotion an interesting turn of events that might make the show more watchable for me.

Sentai · 06-28-2013, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeoRangerV

Maybe to you. I just find them annoying and pointless. The novelty of a "happy" themed villain completely wore off when they started shoehorning her into as many episodes as they can.

Which is why I'd find a constantly happy villain having to feel a negative emotion an interesting turn of events that might make the show more watchable for me.

*Proudly holds up his Candi and Lucky 4ever sign, huffs*

06-27-2013, 06:17 PM	#81
Matrixbeast Mighty Morphin Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Za Warudo Posts: 25,465	Quote: Originally Posted by Sentai It has one already. Don't lie to me. Saying "Deboss might be revived" a story does not make. That's just a plot hook that the story fish has been avoiding since day one. __________________

06-27-2013, 06:19 PM	#82
Locke Big Bad Wolf. Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Raiding tombs. Posts: 9,529	Quote: Originally Posted by Matrixbeast Don't lie to me. Saying "Deboss might be revived" a story does not make. That's just a plot hook that the story fish has been avoiding since day one. It's funny because Kyoryuger embodies everything Sentai Elitists condemn Power Rangers for. I guess I should appreciate Kyoryuger on the sweet irony. __________________

06-27-2013, 06:19 PM	#83
Sentai Sentai of the Ages Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 16,715	Quote: Originally Posted by Matrixbeast Don't lie to me. Saying "Deboss might be revived" a story does not make. That's just a plot hook that the story fish has been avoiding since day one. Don't like the show then don't watch the show, but don't simplify everything just to suit you. This has plenty of story. What happened to Daigo's father What did Ian's friend find exactly and why does it shimmer like Daigo's necklace Deboss waking up It has plenty of story. You just don't like it. Which is fine, I don't like Kamen Rider before Kuuga. You do. Sorry >_> I just really love this show. Alot. Last edited by Sentai; 06-27-2013 at 06:37 PM..

06-27-2013, 06:44 PM	#84
Matrixbeast Mighty Morphin Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Za Warudo Posts: 25,465	Quote: Originally Posted by Sentai Don't like the show then don't watch the show, but don't simplify everything just to suit you. This has plenty of story. What happened to Daigo's father What did Ian's friend find exactly and why does it shimmer like Daigo's necklace Deboss waking up It has plenty of story. You just don't like it. Which is fine, I don't like Kamen Rider before Kuuga. You do. First off, I've never seen Kuuga. Second, this is the same kind of hyper-simplified argument you were giving against Black during the LWW poll. Third, don't take everything so seriously. Fourth, why do you think I'm watching this show? I see a glimpse of something interesting, but rather than expand upon it, the next episode 4 episodes is just goofing around before we get another random plot thread that's dropped for more goofing off. It's unruly, and I want this show to be something more. I'm not wanting a complete tonal shift, I know what this show is, and I can handle funny and goofy. I just want this show to know what it wants to do, rather than just implement plot hooks and leave them dangling to be resolved later. The only plot that seems to be treated with any sense of importance is Ian and Aigaron's, and the glimmering stones. While it's likely that it might tie into Daigo and his father's story, we don't have any reason to pursue it since the show wants to introduce more rangers instead. Stop trying to paint everything as black or white. "Dislike it, don't watch it." Why don't you ask why someone dislikes it, rather than just telling them to get out the room? I dislike this show because I see one of the most interesting rangers casts based solely on their character summaries alone, with an interesting villain motif, and a fairly intriguing story, but the show would rather dance around (Literally), then expand upon those. It feels like a waste of potential. We're only 18 episodes in, and I'm hoping that by 25 the other two Kyoryugers will be introduced so that we can actually build on our cast and story, rather than just expand it. __________________

06-27-2013, 07:43 PM	#86
Sentai Sentai of the Ages Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 16,715	I get what your saying. You want a deeper, richer plot. But that isn't what this series is about. Not after what they tried with Go-Busters. You can tell they made this series to be more fun than anything else. Look at Candi. And I defend it so hard because I like what they're doing. I wouldn't want it every season, it'd be to much and turn me off. But I love it now. And King isn't perfect, he proved that with Gray. And the series isn't over yet. It might surprise you. I apologize. Just really bad at framing arguements. Last edited by Sentai; 06-27-2013 at 07:57 PM..