[Locke]

I think Aquaman is an especially good hero to have cartoons on/of because he is all about swashbuckling adventures and I just think it'd be a lot of fun.

[badlander86]

If they based it on Brave and the Bold, sure. That Aquaman was awesome. And if anything, if DC could make a reasonably good Aquaman series aimed at the younger viewers, they just might be able to wipe away the stigma of Super Friends Aquaman who was for all intents and purposes, the only Aquaman most people from my and older generations remember.

The "talks to fish" angle will of course inevitably come up.

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by badlander86

If they based it on Brave and the Bold, sure. That Aquaman was awesome. And if anything, if DC could make a reasonably good Aquaman series aimed at the younger viewers, they just might be able to wipe away the stigma of Super Friends Aquaman who was for all intents and purposes, the only Aquaman most people from my and older generations remember.

The "talks to fish" angle will of course inevitably come up.

I dunno if that is really true, if kids still read comics then they'll know Aquaman is awesome. New 52 has made Aquaman cool again and although I think that perhaps he is a little too 'edgy' to translate into a kids cartoon in his current comics form, a softer, more adventure focused variation of the character could work well for a cartoon I think.

Since what kids don't love a good bit of adventure, pirates, sword fighting and giant monsters?

[badlander86]

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I dunno if that is really true, if kids still read comics then they'll know Aquaman is awesome. New 52 has made Aquaman cool again and although I think that perhaps he is a little too 'edgy' to translate into a kids cartoon in his current comics form, a softer, more adventure focused variation of the character could work well for a cartoon I think.

Since what kids don't love a good bit of adventure, pirates, sword fighting and giant monsters?

That would require guys at DC Animation to be invested in the idea of making serious story-driven series. They tried with Young Justice but for whatever reason (now that Potato is onboard maybe he can help shed some light on what really happened to that show behind the scenes) that died in the water.

As far as I can guess they want to focus on kid-friendly stuff for TV while giving older fans edgier stories on DVD/Blu-Ray features. Which is sort of a good thing seeing as how they can get away with a lot censorship wise.

Me, I envisioned a series about a young Arthur Curry, Lighthouse boy setting out to find his missing heritage while on the run from Atlanteans who want him dead for Byzantine politics while on the run from...I dunno...Lexcorp who want to cut him open on a table to see what makes him tick. They could do what Busiek did and try to inject some Arthurian legend into it...

I just don't see how they could pitch it up to the powers that be. These days I wonder how DCAU got away with all the innuendo they left in Justice League.

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by badlander86

That would require guys at DC Animation to be invested in the idea of making serious story-driven series. They tried with Young Justice but for whatever reason (now that Potato is onboard maybe he can help shed some light on what really happened to that show behind the scenes) that died in the water.

As far as I can guess they want to focus on kid-friendly stuff for TV while giving older fans edgier stories on DVD/Blu-Ray features. Which is sort of a good thing seeing as how they can get away with a lot censorship wise.

Me, I envisioned a series about a young Arthur Curry, Lighthouse boy setting out to find his missing heritage while on the run from Atlanteans who want him dead for Byzantine politics while on the run from...I dunno...Lexcorp who want to cut him open on a table to see what makes him tick. They could do what Busiek did and try to inject some Arthurian legend into it...

I just don't see how they could pitch it up to the powers that be. These days I wonder how DCAU got away with all the innuendo they left in Justice League.

I dunno, if Aquaman goes on a separate adventure each week it could basically have no wider narrative and be completely episodic, even though I don't like shows like that. Your idea sounds awesome though!

Yeah I'm really surprised at the level of violence and adult themes found in stuff like BTAS, JLU, Beyond etc. You just don't get that kind of stuff any more.

[badlander86]

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I dunno, if Aquaman goes on a separate adventure each week it could basically have no wider narrative and be completely episodic, even though I don't like shows like that. Your idea sounds awesome though!

Yeah I'm really surprised at the level of violence and adult themes found in stuff like BTAS, JLU, Beyond etc. You just don't get that kind of stuff any more.

Have you seen the 90s Spider-Man series? That show was pretty good and managed to work around some major censors. Guns for example couldn't be depicted in animation (I believe it was by FOX Animation. Could be wrong) so even Police characters were stuck using guns that looked like Sci-Fi blasters. The worst was when the Punisher shows up and he gets stuck with non-Lethal ordinance that would make Batman snicker. That said, the show did have some real epic bits and they tried to make it the series that tied the 90s Marvel animation together( X-Men, Fantastic Four and the Hulk I think).

These days...I dunno. Now don't get me wrong, I like light-hearted shows like Teen Titans Go but I think something a little more epic would show kids more about the difference between right and wrong and consequences.

I miss the 90s....Animation wise anyway.

[Locke]

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Have you seen the 90s Spider-Man series? That show was pretty good and managed to work around some major censors. Guns for example couldn't be depicted in animation (I believe it was by FOX Animation. Could be wrong) so even Police characters were stuck using guns that looked like Sci-Fi blasters. The worst was when the Punisher shows up and he gets stuck with non-Lethal ordinance that would make Batman snicker. That said, the show did have some real epic bits and they tried to make it the series that tied the 90s Marvel animation together( X-Men, Fantastic Four and the Hulk I think).

These days...I dunno. Now don't get me wrong, I like light-hearted shows like Teen Titans Go but I think something a little more epic would show kids more about the difference between right and wrong and consequences.

I miss the 90s....Animation wise anyway.

The one where censorship wouldn't allow him to throw punches so all he did through the whole show was swing on a web and kick people? Punisher and his fucking 'mercy bullets' hahahaha! Yeah I remember it, loved it as a kid but the animation has not aged well at all, so much QUALITY.

I think the bigger problem now is that censorship is so tight, even shows that do try and do something more '90s' like say Young Justice or Ben 10 Alien Force or Generator Rex all end up falling flat most of the time because they are so limited in anything they do.

I agree kids shouldn't be exposed to like extreme violence, or sex, or swearing, or drug use or whatever but it's worrying when there is more violence and gore in the playground than there is in the cartoons and really the best kids shows are the ones with adult themes, educationally, as the kids can actually learn and think about things rather than just learning how to do a new fart joke.

[Potato]

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I think Aquaman is an especially good hero to have cartoons on/of because he is all about swashbuckling adventures and I just think it'd be a lot of fun.

Although a new series will most likely never happen..let's just say they started storyboarding on a 52 Justice League DVD that's...uhhh...how do I say it..."Aquacentric"

[Locke]

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Although a new series will most likely never happen..let's just say they started storyboarding on a 52 Justice League DVD that's...uhhh...how do I say it..."Aquacentric"

Oh my God really?! Yes! Good to see one of my DC favourites getting a look in.

[Potato]

[QUOTE=badlander86;185429]That would require guys at DC Animation to be invested in the idea of making serious story-driven series. They tried with Young Justice but for whatever reason (now that Potato is onboard maybe he can help shed some light on what really happened to that show behind the scenes) that died in the water.

When we went into season 2, we already knew the series was gonna get canceled. Cartoon Network already informed us that this is the last season (hence the time jump to wrap things up). The cancelletaion was entirely CN's decision and not WBs. The problem is that WB no longer has its own networks and has to rely on stations like CN (which is part of Turner, which is the parent company of CN and WB) to fund its programs.

Here's the crazy part. CN flat out told us.."WB content is pure filler for CN". CN doesn't care that the ratings for Brave/Bold, GL or YJ were good. Its not a CN product, hence there will be no support/advertising for them. Hence the cancelation.
Also the toys didn't sell...which is totally understandable because A) The toys sucked...and B) they were WAAAY too expensive for what you got. $10 for a shitty little PVC figure with 70's articulation?!!?! I showed them what $10 got you in Japan (Mini S.I.C. figures with crazy good paintjobs and articulation). No Bueno.