[Locke]

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

How is this any different from Wizard or Fourze?

What makes this not a Kamen Rider show compared to all the others?

The suit designs? The five core Riders? The plot and theme? I don't know what makes something inherently a Kamen Rider show and we've not got nearly enough to make any kind of opinion but I will admit something does just feel generally off about all of this.

[Captain Marvelous]

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Originally Posted by MKDremare

I dunno, guys. I don't even think that the girl is going to be a Kamen Rider. I don't see a Lock Seed in her hand, and from what I've read on other websites, they don't even refer to her as a Kamen Rider. For all we know, Griton's going to be the mysterious Kamen Rider who appears to the others when they need help.

Why would they introduce 5 Riders and not the 5 actors who's going to portray them? There's no reason to keep the 5th Rider's identity in secret so I still think there will be a female rider in this show.

[SPLIT LIP]

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Originally Posted by Locke

The suit designs? The five core Riders? The plot and theme?

All have been done far different before. Ryuki had multiple Ridrs, plenty of series have suits that barely resemble Kamen Riders, and the plots change every time.

People always feel it's off when they see a new Rider. I may not have been a Rider fan for long, but I've been around long enough to know that the internet loves jumping to conclusions and making up opinions before they even see the first episode.

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

Sour grapes, much?

I find this odd coming from a guy who likes Wizard and Fourze. No problem with that, but they were WAY "stupid" in their own right like Fourze being Highschool based and Wizard being, well, a terrible show.

Ooo I missed this bit, nice pun

I can't change your mind about Wizard but you can't change mine either, you can hate on Wizard as much as you and the community like but I find it and Haruto fun. Did they make a cool concept really, really shitty? Yes, yes they did and so in turn the Lock Seeds could turn out to be fantastic and cool and I hold out for that but the concept of fruit powers gets me about as excited as seeing an old man in a pair of denim shorts.

Same with Fourze, Fourze was great FUN and had great characters and made fantastic use of the setting (well for the first half of the show) so this show could do the same but based on the very little we have right now, it doesn't do anything for me.

[SPLIT LIP]

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Originally Posted by Locke

Ooo I missed this bit, nice pun

I can't change your mind about Wizard but you can't change mine either, you can hate on Wizard as much as you and the community like but I find it and Haruto fun. Did they make a cool concept really, really shitty? Yes, yes they did and so in turn the Lock Seeds could turn out to be fantastic and cool and I hold out for that but the concept of fruit powers gets me about as excited as seeing an old man in a pair of denim shorts.

Same with Fourze, Fourze was great FUN and had great characters and made fantastic use of the setting (well for the first half of the show) so this show could do the same but based on the very little we have right now, it doesn't do anything for me.

Now read what you said and relate it to Gaimu.

Gaimu could end up great fun, or have stand out characters, but you won't know if you judge it based on looks alone.

Also, for God's sake man do you not read? He doesn't have "fruit powers" it's a motif. Den-O doesn't have peach powers, or turtle powers, or bear or dragon or swan powers. It's just something for visual interest that if no one told you it was fruit you probably wouldn't even know.

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

Now read what you said and relate it to Gaimu.

Gaimu could end up great fun, or have stand out characters, but you won't know if you judge it based on looks alone.

I said that.

[SPLIT LIP]

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Originally Posted by Locke

I said that.

Which really fucking confuses me because you turn right around and ignore your own words by judging and jumping to conclusions.

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

Which really fucking confuses me because you turn right around and ignore your own words by judging and jumping to conclusions.

I'm judging and making conclusions simply on what we have, not on the show as a whole.

Fruit Riders? Not my cup of tea.
Suit designs? Too busy.
Dance theme? Kyoryuger is overrated, hope it isn't more of the same.

As plot and character details come to light and we get to see the heroes in action my opinion will change.

[SPLIT LIP]

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Originally Posted by Locke

I'm judging and making conclusions simply on what we have, not on the show as a whole.

Doesn't sound like it.

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Fruit Riders? Not my cup of tea.

So that's why you call it stupid?

Because Kiva is not my cup of tea, but I don't call it stupid, nor do I assume to know what his powers are.

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Suit designs? Too busy.

Meh, we've had simple suits for far too long. Simple is fine, but it gets cheaper the more it's used. This way we get variety.

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Dance theme? Kyoryuger is overrated, hope it isn't more of the same.

It's really hard when I disagree and agree with you at the same time.

I only hope that street dancing means actual bust-a-move breakdancing and not samba... whatever the frig they do in Kyoryger. (I mean, I've samba'd a few times in my life and I don't think it looked quite like that)

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

Doesn't sound like it.

So that's why you call it stupid?

Because Kiva is not my cup of tea, but I don't call it stupid, nor do I assume to know what his powers are.

Meh, we've had simple suits for far too long. Simple is fine, but it gets cheaper the more it's used. This way we get variety.

It's really hard when I disagree and agree with you at the same time.

I only hope that street dancing means actual bust-a-move breakdancing and not samba... whatever the frig they do in Kyoryger. (I mean, I've samba'd a few times in my life and I don't think it looked quite like that)

Yes the idea of fruit powers is stupid, I will think they are stupid until the show proves otherwise.

In terms of suits? Maybe, but if this is what the base forms look like I dread to think what hell the upgrades will shape up as.

The worst part of Kyoryuger's samba business is the show itself seems to think its pointless and worthless so we just get a few awkward dances every few episodes that wastes a good minute or two of screen time as the show continues to plod along looking for reasons to make me actually want to watch it.