[ZeoRangerV]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Oh, Bale's voice is not by his choice, but rather the suit. Bale explained in an interview that the mask is extremely tight, making it impossible for him to breath from his nose, so he sounds that way because that is the only way he can sound. He also said the costume retracts in the cold, so that makes it even worse.

That just sounds like a really pathetic excuse for something he's been ridiculed for repeatedly. Not being able to breathe through your nose would not make you sound like that not matter how tight a mask was.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by Locke

Although the Dark Knight was a great, great film, I dunno whether it's gonna be 'the best for 50 years', largely because the Batman trilogy weren't really superhero films. Sure there was a hero in a costume, a villain in one as well but most of the time the whole 'superhero' part of the movies felt tacked on at best, and it all went downhill in Rises when Nolan actually read the comics...

What?

Wow, now who is pulling what out of their ass? YOu do realize that Begins had pieces taken out of Year One, The Long Halloween, and an individual comic story about Joe Chill, right?

THe second movie adapted more of The Long Halloween and Dark Victory while Joker was a combination of Moore's, Miller's, and O'Neil's Jokers. Rises adapted Knightfall, No Man's Land, and The Dark Knight Returns.

BTW, Batman is a super hero, so no matter what, his movies are super hero movies. V for Vendetta is a comic movie because it is not a super hero comic.

[ZeoRangerV]

And quite clearly the Adam West movie too

But what exactly makes Batman "super" in comparison to V? You could use the argument that Batman has super powered villains, but the films don't so your argument doesn't have much logic to it.

[Locke]

Plus where are you getting these comics from? Minus the characters, and the vaguest of plot details, I fail to see how they are adaptations of any of these stories.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by Locke

Plus where are you getting these comics from? Minus the characters, and the vaguest of plot details, I fail to see how they are adaptations of any of these stories.

Have you not read them? Using the sonar to bring the bats to Arkham is ripped directly out of Year One. As is most of Gordon's character and Flask. Falconi is from THe Long Halloween. And the other comic deals with Bruce studying abroad talking about how Joe Chill was the one who killed his parents.

The Dark Knight Return is Batman had retired for 10 years. No Man's Land is an earthquake hit Gotham, and all of the villains started to section off their portions of Gotham, Gordon had to lead a small band of resistance fighters, etc. Knightfall is obviously when Bane broke Bruce's back and he had to spend time recovering from that.

Harvey becoming Two-Face due to Joker came right out of TLH, as Joker gave Harvey a present to him and his wife for Xmas that blew up their home, killing his wife and scaring Harvey.

Everything in the Nolan movies were taken from the comics. Nolan put 70 years worth of Batman history into those movies no matter how much you don't want him to. They were far closer to the comics than the Tim Burton movies and even that Adam West garbage was.

[Sentai]

Christopher Nolan's films reinforce the entire Batman is Invincible mindset that DC Comics has now. I've seen it in the animated movies where, if it has Batman anywhere near it, he's the only one that knows what to do. I've seen it in DC Universe Online where you can't even fight him if you're a Tech (Joker Mentor'd) villain. And in Nolan's Batman.
Not that the movies were unwatchable. Heath Ledger's Joker was masterful, and Bane was something truely Epic. They were good movies (If you ignore they mispronounced Ra's Al Ghul throughout the entire trilogy. It's Reash, like Reach but with a sh. Not Ra's. Nolan, you are an idiot).
But I miss Keaton's Batman. He was vulnerable, He nearly died once a movie, and only won because he was just slightly smarter than everyone else. In Batman Returns he only won because Penguin lost his mind towards the end and Shrek was taken out by an enraged Selena.
I enjoyed Batman Forever. Yes I know, Shumacher is a moron and should be shot into the sun for Batman and Robin. But I loved Batman Forever. I loved Two-Face and Riddler, I loved Nicole Kidnman, and I even loved Val Kilmer as Batman.
Batman and Robin can rot.

But Adam West and that original 1967 movie will always be a classic of pure fun and classic camp. Romero's Joker alone makes it worth the watch.

[ZeoRangerV]

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Originally Posted by Sentai

Christopher Nolan's films reinforce the entire Batman is Invincible mindset that DC Comics has now.

What? Nolan's Batman is anything but invincible.

[Locke]

It also doesn't help that Nolan can't direct an action scene to save his life.

[Sentai]

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Originally Posted by Locke

It also doesn't help that Nolan can't direct an action scene to save his life.

I thought the final fight between Bane and Batman was good. But that could be because I love Bane

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by Sentai

I thought the final fight between Bane and Batman was good. But that could be because I love Bane

I think the low point of the franchise is when Bane and Batman have that fist fight before the iconic back break, it was like watching two obese pensioners playing pattycake.