[SPLIT LIP]

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Originally Posted by EnerPrime

I don't think the Liner Form thing is a mistake per se. I was just thinking it meant that the ring summoned Momotaros possessing Ryotaro as Den-O, rather then just Momotaros being Sword Form on his own.

But it's still a mistake since Momotaros can't be part of Liner Form, it's not one he posesses the ability to use, since it's specifically a form that operates without him. That's the point of it. Seeing it do the Ore Sanjou pose is weird, too.

[Shin Henshin]

There were plenty of errors. Another is the fact that OOO uses the PuToTyranno combo when those medals should have been destroyed if he's also using Super TaToBa as a final form. Though you could also write it off by saying that if the rings create Rider constructs then the Rider himself possesses all of his abilities regardless if they've been denied access to before or not.

It's obvious the team decided "Go crazy first, ask questions later." Didn't really mind it too much since it was a lot of fun regardless, which was most likely their goal anyway.

[EnerPrime]

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Originally Posted by Shin Henshin

There were plenty of errors. Another is the fact that OOO uses the PuToTyranno combo when those medals should have been destroyed if he's also using Super TaToBa as a final form. Though you could also write it off by saying that if the rings create Rider constructs then the Rider himself possesses all of his abilities regardless if they've been denied access to before or not.

Decade's presence kinda rules out the summoned riders being constructs, though. He was summoned and was definity the real deal.

As for OOO using PuToTyra, IIRC technicly we only saw seven of the purple medals break. The full combo Maki had was never shown to break and could theoreticly still be intact for Eiji to recover.

[RiderSkyward]

Minus the little screw ups (and even some of them are debatable) with riders and powers etc, it all made perfect sense. I liked that the show acknowledge the riders source of powers and it was an interesting concept for a villain/clash of ideals.

Still, I mainly dug it for the fun and the sense of nostalgia. Granted i've only been watching these shows for what, 3/4 years? But it was still cool to see Den-o pull out the den liner and a castle doran appearance =D

[Dormamu]

Here's your silver plate.


Here's your Riders.


Here's your Riders on a silver plate using all their tricks from your favorite or not so favorite seasons.




Now I'm on a horse.


That's on a soapbox.


Explosions!


I'm not really sure why there's so much nitpicking. It was already very obvious that this was an alternate dimension with it's own rules, considering Beast was there (jeez, even in the end Nitou can't get a break), and I feel like Decade's actual presence is more of the obvious mcguffin to allow his actor to come back. This final episode wasn't just Juicy, it was Moist.

With that being said, they gave us in two half hour episodes what usually takes going to the movies. It was short, to the point even with it's pointlessness (seriously, he didn't really 'save' Koyomi, did he, and he didn't do anything with her ring, so it leaves it massively open for Wizard x Gaim apparently, and what was the point of the kid calling on Gaim twice other than to show us that he's hard to the core), and gave just enough fan service to make it a proper sendoff for the next series.

[Dormamu]

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Originally Posted by Locke

There is little point pointing out individual screwups when the whole thing barely made any sense. But making sense was never the point, it was about wasting time until Gaim arrived and I think they wasted our time in one of the best ways they could, by having fun.

+1 Gold Star.

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Originally Posted by Switchblade

I'm still pretty damn sure the whole thing was just a fever dream Haruto had after eating a rancid donut.

*spits coffee laughing*

[Electric Turahk]

Finally watched the episode and seriously guys... It was such a fun one! I loved how much attention the Riders got. They get less in crossover movies that feature them all and have more time for action.

The story was kind of rubbish, yeah. But nitpicks about the Riders... Yeah I'm gonna be forgiving about that. And it definitely was implied they were summoned versions or spirit versions of them, so they were in some sense the real deal. Den-O having Sword Form and Liner Form can make sense. It was Ryotaro, but of course he needs Momo for Sword Form. Once the finale forms were activated, he took control. It's really quite simple.

Heck, the only thing I actually disliked was Alternative Zero being amongst the "monsters." That is the only thing that didn't make sense.

But I'll chalk it up as the Wizard AU world Decade would have gone to if his show were happening now, since that's pretty much what it is. And I'm fine with that.

So it's not a great, story-driven or compelling episode. But it sure was fun to watch.

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by EnerPrime

As for OOO using PuToTyra, IIRC technicly we only saw seven of the purple medals break. The full combo Maki had was never shown to break and could theoreticly still be intact for Eiji to recover.

But Maki was sent into the void, and since we didn't see Eiji recovering the medals, then it's presumed that Maki's purple medals are in the future or whatever, too.

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Originally Posted by Dormamu

Here's your silver plate.


Here's your Riders.


Here's your Riders on a silver plate using all their tricks from your favorite or not so favorite seasons.




Now I'm on a horse.


That's on a soapbox.


Explosions!


I'm not really sure why there's so much nitpicking. It was already very obvious that this was an alternate dimension with it's own rules, considering Beast was there (jeez, even in the end Nitou can't get a break), and I feel like Decade's actual presence is more of the obvious mcguffin to allow his actor to come back. This final episode wasn't just Juicy, it was Moist.

With that being said, they gave us in two half hour episodes what usually takes going to the movies. It was short, to the point even with it's pointlessness (seriously, he didn't really 'save' Koyomi, did he, and he didn't do anything with her ring, so it leaves it massively open for Wizard x Gaim apparently, and what was the point of the kid calling on Gaim twice other than to show us that he's hard to the core), and gave just enough fan service to make it a proper sendoff for the next series.

It was explicitly stated that the Beast that shows up was the same Nitou from a point in time before he lost Chimera (As in, literally. Haruto straight up says that).

Next, you're right. Everything is perfect. Why bother critiquing something at all? After all, Kamen Rider, as a franchise, is meant for entertainment. At the end of the day, the story doesn't matter because it'll be over in a year, the purpose of pointing out flaws doesn't matter because each series is just to bide time for the next series to start off. We should all sit here and jerk off over past Riders appearing (An event that might as well be annual now since Decade started) and not discuss minor problems.
After all, who in their right mind would want to discuss something that's meant to be fun?

[Locke]

Critiquing a series is fine, because the core series is supposed to have a continuity, a set of characters and a story but these two episodes were just wasting time, so criticise them all you like, but all you're trying to do is get blood out a stone.

Funny thing is, as soon as Gaim airs I can't wait to see all this shit reversed.

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by Locke

Critiquing a series is fine, because the core series is supposed to have a continuity, a set of characters and a story but these two episodes were just wasting time, so criticise them all you like, but all you're trying to do is get blood out a stone.

Funny thing is, as soon as Gaim airs I can't wait to see all this shit reversed.

Aside from pointing out minor continuity gaffes, no one is giving a rear critique.
I'm just pointing out that, if ultimately the point of the episode is to waste time, why is dickriding it like crazy acceptable, but pointing out minor issues unacceptable?

No one is parading around with all the flaws in story telling, plot, pacing, etc. People want to know whether or not the rider rings created real characters or constructs. People want to know if Momo was Den-O, how he went Liner form. Etc etc.

And what do you mean it'll be reversed for Gaim?