[guncannon109]

"You want me... to count my sins...? Then, is it a sin... to love...?"

Rather poetic final words don't you think? But I've been thinking, what did Jun Kazu aka the Utopia Dopant exactly mean by that when he said it? His sins/crimes (however you choose to translate it) where rather clear weren't they? That's when I got to thinking, sure, Jun being the technical final enemy in Kamen Rider W sure raised a lot of hell in his time on screen, but he didn't exactly do it because "evil."

There were motives behind most his actions for the most part. His main goal was completing the plan that Ryubee had already set in motion and he only went after the riders only after they attacked him and took Wakana from him. Now why would he enact a plan that wasn't his to begin with? Well, it's rather simple. It was his "love" for Saeko Sonozaki. Think about it, who allowed the riders to get away from Jun? Saeko. Who did Jun trust enough to let his guard down? Saeko. Where am I going with this? Well, it's my belief that Jun put more weight on the reason behind an action rather than the action itself. When W told him to "Count up his crimes," Jun took it as "Tell me the reasons for said crimes," and when Jun said "is it a sin to love someone?" that was him saying "I did it out of love."

What do you guys think? Is there another side of Jun that we don't know about, or am I just pulling stuff out of my ass?

Let me know below.

[uchihabro77]

Sounds like a reason to make W sound even more awesome then it was

[guncannon109]

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Originally Posted by uchihabro77

Sounds like a reason to make W sound even more awesome then it was

You say that as if it wasn't already?

[uchihabro77]

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Originally Posted by guncannon109

You say that as if it wasn't already?

No, I said it makes MORE awesome! W was great, tied for my favorite, between OOO and Den-O. I honestly cant pick between those three

But dang, that took some thought if they meant for that from Utopia...

[guncannon109]

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Originally Posted by uchihabro77

No, I said it makes MORE awesome! W was great, tied for my favorite, between OOO and Den-O. I honestly cant pick between those three

Ah, okay. Sorry, it's just how you used the words "actually was" that threw me off, my bad.

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But dang, that took some thought if they meant for that from Utopia...

Well, this is just my interpretation.

[uchihabro77]

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Originally Posted by guncannon109

Ah, okay. Sorry, it's just how you used the words "actually was" that threw me off, my bad.



Well, this is just my interpretation.

I have a tendency to screw up wordings

Yes but it is a great thought, which gets me thinking- "Bandai, where the hell is Utopia SHF?"

[guncannon109]

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Originally Posted by uchihabro77

I have a tendency to screw up wordings

Yes but it is a great thought, which gets me thinking- "Bandai, where the hell is Utopia SHF?"

Good question!

What the hell Bandai?

[algo448]

That's how I saw it too, adds more depth to the character.
And keep asking for utopia and a certain Saga gif will appear...

[Matrixbeast]

I don't want to sound like a prick, but wasn't this fairly clear? I had figured this wasn't a "What if" moment, but just confirming what had simply been implied up to that point.

[guncannon109]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

I don't want to sound like a prick, but wasn't this fairly clear? I had figured this wasn't a "What if" moment, but just confirming what had simply been implied up to that point.

Eh, fair enough. I just was unsure if others caught it is all.