Kamen Rider Gaim Speculation/Rumors Thread

KyoryuGreen · 11-10-2013, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Powerman293

Crazy Gaim theory that I probably am going to be wrong about because we only are 5 episodes in.

What if the Invess world is actually some sort of form of the Garden of Eden? There's fruits everywhere along with monsters that are fairly peaceful if a human doesn't appear. Maybe Yggdrasil is using the Sengoku Rider war to find the strongest life and "remake" humanity by going back to the first temptation of the Forbidden Fruit and see if they can resist eating the apple again. That one choice that made humanity mortal and caused all living things to fight.

And maybe the light brown haired Mai is actually a purified Mai from the future that takes the place of Eve in our Garden of Eden scenario. yggdrasil prepared her for the decision by making her "pure" but she needs a partner to move humanity forward, hence her knowledge of the lockseeds and why she helps out Kouta.

Ryugen and Zangetsu are our Cain and Abel of the story as they are brothers and Ryugen has a willingness to protect and Zangetsu isn't afraid to kill people. The feud at the beginning of episode 1 has Ryugen standing next to Zangetsu's side, waiting as Gaim and Baron clash. Again, a similar scenario to when Cain and Abel go out to the field. So one of the two might try to kill each other at that point.

So where do the Genesis riders come in? I'm betting you're thinking to yourself, "But Powerman, if they are all fighting to be Adam then why is there a female rider in the Genesis group?" Good point. Ever heard of a character named Lilith? Adam's first wife that left the garden and became a demon because she felt she was suppressed by Adam. So our Peach Rider is a girl who was going to be Mrs. Eve in the Invess world but got rejected for being "too imperfect". So she's trying to fight her way back to being Eve.

The other Genesis riders might be based out biblical outcasts, hence why Zangetsu (Cain in this situation) gets an upgraded form from that driver.

Gaim might get his final form when he confronts the Devil Serpent with Mai and makes the decision of the fruit. If he chooses the fruit, he dooms humanity and needs to clean up the Sengoku Rider war along with Yggdrasil so no one can kill him for his terrible decision. If he chooses not to eat the fruit... I actually have no theory for that.

So in a sense, this is a war to end all wars and start humanity anew. If I get this right I am going to be shocked.

A very interesting and intriguing theory. Might very well to turn out true or something like it.

I've honestly been thinking that Micchi/Ryugen will die because of his connections to both Gaim and Zangetsu. If the whole Cain and Abel thing has any significance then I could see Zangetsu kill Ryugen without knowing it's his brother, or even knowing.

KamenRiderOOO · 11-10-2013, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KyoryuGreen

A very interesting and intriguing theory. Might very well to turn out true or something like it.

I've honestly been thinking that Micchi/Ryugen will die because of his connections to both Gaim and Zangetsu. If the whole Cain and Abel thing has any significance then I could see Zangetsu kill Ryugen without knowing it's his brother, or even knowing.

Given the recent episode revealing that apparently Zangetsu planned for Sid to give Micchi his SengokuDriver (as shown in his "subject file"), I think it's unlikely

Sentai · 11-10-2013, 08:21 PM

What if Gaim uses one of the Invess LockSeeds? Mn..

GoseiWonder · 11-10-2013, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Powerman293

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That IS an awesome plot. Probably won't happen, but like my Apple of Eden Lockseed Final Form that possibly inspired this theory, it'd be JUICY!

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Originally Posted by Sentai

What if Gaim uses one of the Invess LockSeeds? Mn..

Maybe that's how he get's the Apple Lockseed!

SPLIT LIP · 11-10-2013, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sentai

What if Gaim uses one of the Invess LockSeeds? Mn..

Aren't all lock seeds invess lock seeds?

Hope4896 · 11-10-2013, 10:51 PM

Uncomfirmed spoilers of future storyline:

1. In the second arc the mysterious girl will be revealed as "Eva"
2. In the third arc a mysterious man with SILVER HAIR known as "Adam" will appear.
3. Adam plans to make the real world into a same place like Helheim Forest
4. The creation of a new forest requires life energy and strong humans.
5. Adam has a GOLDEN DRIVER AND APPLE LOCKSEED!

Adam and Eva are forced to leave the human world afer eating the forbidden fruit. Those who used the power of the fruit shall be claimed guilty.......

Powerman293 · 11-10-2013, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hope4896

Uncomfirmed spoilers of future storyline:

1. In the second arc the mysterious girl will be revealed as "Eva"
2. In the third arc a mysterious man with SILVER HAIR known as "Adam" will appear.
3. Adam plans to make the real world into a same place like Helheim Forest
4. The creation of a new forest requires life energy and strong humans.
5. Adam has a GOLDEN DRIVER AND APPLE LOCKSEED!

Adam and Eva are forced to leave the human world afer eating the forbidden fruit. Those who used the power of the fruit shall be claimed guilty.......

So, Adam is Kamen Rider Odin. Probably the final boss, golden driver, probably is overpowered, shows up halfway through the show to go "TROLOLOL LOOK WHAT I CAN DO", and has a female companion that he fights for. Damn, when the writer said this was a tribute to Ryuki, he wasn't messing around.

So is Eva our Yui Kanazaki, useless bitch that the series revolves around eventually leading to a non issue due to Shiro's time travel. If they pull that bullshit with Gaim I'll be pissed beyond belief

And how much do you wanna bet after this rumor that Blood Gaim is going to return for the Gaim movie and use his dark version of Gaim's final form?

KyoryuGreen · 11-10-2013, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hope4896

Uncomfirmed spoilers of future storyline:

1. In the second arc the mysterious girl will be revealed as "Eva"
2. In the third arc a mysterious man with SILVER HAIR known as "Adam" will appear.
3. Adam plans to make the real world into a same place like Helheim Forest
4. The creation of a new forest requires life energy and strong humans.
5. Adam has a GOLDEN DRIVER AND APPLE LOCKSEED!

Adam and Eva are forced to leave the human world afer eating the forbidden fruit. Those who used the power of the fruit shall be claimed guilty.......

If true Adam sounds totally awesome, and sounds really really interesting.

GoseiWonder · 11-11-2013, 12:05 AM

The more I think about it, the more likely an Apple Lockseed being the Final Form Lockseed feels.

Mostly in that Apples are a huge staple of the idea of Fruit and yet it gets no acknowledgement insofar.
There HAS to be a reason why

algo448 · 11-11-2013, 07:35 PM

More secondary characters in the movie:
http://silver-goldfish.tumblr.com/po...co-jp-tv-gaimu

11-10-2013, 08:18 PM	#781
KyoryuGreen Sky Henshin! Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 4,779	Quote: Originally Posted by Powerman293 Crazy Gaim theory that I probably am going to be wrong about because we only are 5 episodes in. What if the Invess world is actually some sort of form of the Garden of Eden? There's fruits everywhere along with monsters that are fairly peaceful if a human doesn't appear. Maybe Yggdrasil is using the Sengoku Rider war to find the strongest life and "remake" humanity by going back to the first temptation of the Forbidden Fruit and see if they can resist eating the apple again. That one choice that made humanity mortal and caused all living things to fight. And maybe the light brown haired Mai is actually a purified Mai from the future that takes the place of Eve in our Garden of Eden scenario. yggdrasil prepared her for the decision by making her "pure" but she needs a partner to move humanity forward, hence her knowledge of the lockseeds and why she helps out Kouta. Ryugen and Zangetsu are our Cain and Abel of the story as they are brothers and Ryugen has a willingness to protect and Zangetsu isn't afraid to kill people. The feud at the beginning of episode 1 has Ryugen standing next to Zangetsu's side, waiting as Gaim and Baron clash. Again, a similar scenario to when Cain and Abel go out to the field. So one of the two might try to kill each other at that point. So where do the Genesis riders come in? I'm betting you're thinking to yourself, "But Powerman, if they are all fighting to be Adam then why is there a female rider in the Genesis group?" Good point. Ever heard of a character named Lilith? Adam's first wife that left the garden and became a demon because she felt she was suppressed by Adam. So our Peach Rider is a girl who was going to be Mrs. Eve in the Invess world but got rejected for being "too imperfect". So she's trying to fight her way back to being Eve. The other Genesis riders might be based out biblical outcasts, hence why Zangetsu (Cain in this situation) gets an upgraded form from that driver. Gaim might get his final form when he confronts the Devil Serpent with Mai and makes the decision of the fruit. If he chooses the fruit, he dooms humanity and needs to clean up the Sengoku Rider war along with Yggdrasil so no one can kill him for his terrible decision. If he chooses not to eat the fruit... I actually have no theory for that. So in a sense, this is a war to end all wars and start humanity anew. If I get this right I am going to be shocked. A very interesting and intriguing theory. Might very well to turn out true or something like it. I've honestly been thinking that Micchi/Ryugen will die because of his connections to both Gaim and Zangetsu. If the whole Cain and Abel thing has any significance then I could see Zangetsu kill Ryugen without knowing it's his brother, or even knowing. __________________ My Sales Thread! Lower Prices!

11-10-2013, 08:20 PM	#782
KamenRiderOOO Resident Customizer The Guy with the Voices @TrueKROOO Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Visalia, CA Posts: 11,089	Quote: Originally Posted by KyoryuGreen A very interesting and intriguing theory. Might very well to turn out true or something like it. I've honestly been thinking that Micchi/Ryugen will die because of his connections to both Gaim and Zangetsu. If the whole Cain and Abel thing has any significance then I could see Zangetsu kill Ryugen without knowing it's his brother, or even knowing. Given the recent episode revealing that apparently Zangetsu planned for Sid to give Micchi his SengokuDriver (as shown in his "subject file"), I think it's unlikely __________________ My signature disappeared. Help.

11-10-2013, 10:51 PM	#786
Hope4896 New Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 38	Uncomfirmed spoilers of future storyline: 1. In the second arc the mysterious girl will be revealed as "Eva" 2. In the third arc a mysterious man with SILVER HAIR known as "Adam" will appear. 3. Adam plans to make the real world into a same place like Helheim Forest 4. The creation of a new forest requires life energy and strong humans. 5. Adam has a GOLDEN DRIVER AND APPLE LOCKSEED! Adam and Eva are forced to leave the human world afer eating the forbidden fruit. Those who used the power of the fruit shall be claimed guilty....... Attached Thumbnails

11-10-2013, 11:29 PM	#787
Powerman293 Man with a plan Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,297	Quote: Originally Posted by Hope4896 Uncomfirmed spoilers of future storyline: 1. In the second arc the mysterious girl will be revealed as "Eva" 2. In the third arc a mysterious man with SILVER HAIR known as "Adam" will appear. 3. Adam plans to make the real world into a same place like Helheim Forest 4. The creation of a new forest requires life energy and strong humans. 5. Adam has a GOLDEN DRIVER AND APPLE LOCKSEED! Adam and Eva are forced to leave the human world afer eating the forbidden fruit. Those who used the power of the fruit shall be claimed guilty....... So, Adam is Kamen Rider Odin. Probably the final boss, golden driver, probably is overpowered, shows up halfway through the show to go "TROLOLOL LOOK WHAT I CAN DO", and has a female companion that he fights for. Damn, when the writer said this was a tribute to Ryuki, he wasn't messing around. So is Eva our Yui Kanazaki, useless bitch that the series revolves around eventually leading to a non issue due to Shiro's time travel. If they pull that bullshit with Gaim I'll be pissed beyond belief And how much do you wanna bet after this rumor that Blood Gaim is going to return for the Gaim movie and use his dark version of Gaim's final form? __________________ My Twitter

11-10-2013, 11:43 PM	#788
KyoryuGreen Sky Henshin! Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 4,779	Quote: Originally Posted by Hope4896 Uncomfirmed spoilers of future storyline: 1. In the second arc the mysterious girl will be revealed as "Eva" 2. In the third arc a mysterious man with SILVER HAIR known as "Adam" will appear. 3. Adam plans to make the real world into a same place like Helheim Forest 4. The creation of a new forest requires life energy and strong humans. 5. Adam has a GOLDEN DRIVER AND APPLE LOCKSEED! Adam and Eva are forced to leave the human world afer eating the forbidden fruit. Those who used the power of the fruit shall be claimed guilty....... If true Adam sounds totally awesome, and sounds really really interesting. __________________ My Sales Thread! Lower Prices!

11-11-2013, 07:35 PM	#790
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