[Switchblade]

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Originally Posted by Sentai

How about we all just leave any comparison to anything 'Nazi" related off the site, completely. Okay, Guys?

So we can't talk about Shocker? Or a certain memetic kaijin from Kamen Rider X? There are some things in tokusatsu that have been inspired by Nazi iconography and/or ideology. The original Kamen Rider was drenched in WWII concepts and there are episodes where the Nazis are directly referenced as a precursor to Shocker. It's not intended as a tribute or something, it's just the show drawing on real life evil as inspiration for their own villains.

Obviously I can't comment on this character because lol Gosieger, but I don't think Locke is trying to invoke Godwin's Law here. If he feels that Hitler was an inspiration for this dude's personality or behavior and wants to mention that as part of his analysis of the show then he should be free to make that point.

[Matrixbeast]

Also, how is referencing Nazi's a problem? Nazis haven't been politically relevant in ages, and when a show or movie makes a reference to an oppressive force, it's almost universally a shout out to Nazis.

If it were North Korea Locke was talking about, then it'd be understandable, but Nazis are pretty much the common inspiration for any oppressive force or army, and they're not exactly a touchy subject...

[Sentai]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Also, how is referencing Nazi's a problem? Nazis haven't been politically relevant in ages, and when a show or movie makes a reference to an oppressive force, it's almost universally a shout out to Nazis.

If it were North Korea Locke was talking about, then it'd be understandable, but Nazis are pretty much the common inspiration for any oppressive force or army, and they're not exactly a touchy subject...

And politics on site is against rules. I asked this be dropped for this very reason, I didn't want it becoming something that overtook the entire thread. Now please, move along.

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by Sentai

And politics on site is against rules. I asked this be dropped for this very reason, I didn't want it becoming something that overtook the entire thread. Now please, move along.

And my statement revolved over why Nazis isn't a problem.
Politics are against the rules. Nazis aren't politically relevant.

Or should beer be banned from discussion because it's political, too?

[Sentai]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

And my statement revolved over why Nazis isn't a problem.
Politics are against the rules. Nazis aren't politically relevant.

Or should beer be banned from discussion because it's political, too?

Move on, Matrix.

[Switchblade]

I don't think Locke was referring to Hitler politically. I think he was just using him as a historical example of a person who may have influenced a character on Goseiger. I don't think there's any real difference here from saying that a character was influenced by George Washington, Tokugawa Ieyasu, Alexander the Great, or any other historical figure.

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by Sentai

Move on, Matrix.

No. Answer. Where is the line drawn?
Shocker clearly and blatantly draws influence from Nazism, and the Shocker troopers use the Nazi salute all the time. You can't silence a discussion about Nazism when Kamen Rider, one of the primary reasons for this site's existence, makes almost annual use of Nazi themes for their recent crossovers.

At what point is the discussion of themes and influences (Of a faction that hasn't been politically relevant in decades, I must note again), become too close to actual political discussion?

I'm pushing this because "Move on" is not a proper answer for this kind of subject. You want the discussion to end? You want the discussion to not come up again? Then you need to be the one to draw the line in the sand for what's too much and what's acceptable.

[GoseiWonder]

So...

Who's seen Gingaman?

Seriously, can we stop talking about the Nazis and talk instead about magic forest people fighting space pirates?

[Sentai]

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Originally Posted by GoseiWonder

So...

Who's seen Gingaman?

Seriously, can we stop talking about the Nazis and talk instead about magic forest people fighting space pirates?

Yes we can. It still amazes me that they turned that into Lost Galaxy. Magic Forest People fighting Pirates into Colonists and a Native Girl fighting insect people from space.

[Locke]

Thanks so much for everyone who stuck up for me, I agree it's all a little silly, but I can see where Sentai is coming from. From now on I'll simply keep it vaguer and more general to avoid the can of worms that is political discussion and what counts as offensive.

ANYWAY.

Is Gingaman subbed? That plot summary sounds amazing and I need a new sentai show.