[SPLIT LIP]

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Lucha

Hell yes! Could not agree more.

Baku Baku Beating Heart forever!

Kiva has all the dressing of an awesome series. So i am probably gonna keep watching to figure it out.

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I find that casting Koji Seto as the innocent, introverted Wataru really highlights the duality of the character -- which makes more sense when you get deeper into the series.

I got the sense that Kiva is a part of Wataru that he actively represses -- and that repressed, savage side of his personality takes over whenever he henshins.

That's possible.

But I feel like there should be at least a hint. He's literally a different person. Like, you can't fool me.

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Say what you will about the overall quality of Kamen Rider Kiva (I'm personally a fan -- though I recognize its myriad flaws), but Wataru has one of the most effective character arcs of any KR series I've watched. He's a very different guy by the end of the series.

This makes me want to watch.

Ryuki is a DEEPLY flawed series, with the core aspect of the show a broken concept.... yet I hold it in high regard because of Ryuki's character.

[ryan]

I hope you like Kiva. It definitely has flaws, many things could have been done better, but I love it, and not just for the designs (which are all awesome - still deeply desire Saga and Fangire Figuarts). I liked all the characters (except Mio, and I don't like her in Faiz either), and for the most part, I thought the story was good.
Whenever I see somebody talking about Kiva I want to rewatch it, I thought it was really great stuff.

[Sentai]

Gaim ep 10

The truth about Zangetsu, the Helheim forest, oh we're so close >_< Though where Ryugen got Kiwi from confuses me, did he steal that to? I like his plan though. I just don't know well it'll work.

[Suzu]

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Originally Posted by ryan

I hope you like Kiva. It definitely has flaws, many things could have been done better, but I love it, and not just for the designs (which are all awesome - still deeply desire Saga and Fangire Figuarts). I liked all the characters (except Mio, and I don't like her in Faiz either), and for the most part, I thought the story was good.

I agree on most of this.
Kiva is not one of the best series out there, but one of the better shows written by Inoue.
As for the characters, they sometimes feel well-written, but some, especially Nago have really weird moments. As for Mio... I hate her. I dislike Koyomi (which already means she really annoys me) but Mio is a little bitch.
The story had some great concepts and had its moments, though on some points it just became a bit confusing and unlogical.
But holy shit, those designs and the MUSIC <3

[ElConvoy]

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Originally Posted by Sentai

Gaim ep 10

The truth about Zangetsu, the Helheim forest, oh we're so close >_< Though where Ryugen got Kiwi from confuses me, did he steal that to? I like his plan though. I just don't know well it'll work.

The last time they were in Helheim Micchy took a fruit and it transformed into the Kiwi Lock Seed. It happens so fast I am not surprised you missed it.

[Sentai]

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Originally Posted by Suzu

I agree on most of this.
Kiva is not one of the best series out there, but one of the better shows written by Inoue.
As for the characters, they sometimes feel well-written, but some, especially Nago have really weird moments. As for Mio... I hate her. I dislike Koyomi (which already means she really annoys me) but Mio is a little bitch.
The story had some great concepts and had its moments, though on some points it just became a bit confusing and unlogical.
But holy shit, those designs and the MUSIC <3

OMG The Music.. Kiva is worth the watch just for the music. And Otoya. Otoya and the Music.

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Originally Posted by ElConvoy

The last time they were in Helheim Micchy took a fruit and it transformed into the Kiwi Lock Seed. It happens so fast I am not surprised you missed it.

I did miss it, I never saw him snag it because I was all "Mango!"

[SPLIT LIP]

So far my other opinons on Kiva, just about done episode three, is that Otoya is fucking horrible. God that's an irritating person, and this is Kiva's dad?

Also, Kivat is kind of dumb. As a transformation device, he's totally out of place on Kiva's design, and he doesn't do anything except be a little robot bat that flies around. He's not a character, he's a gimmick. And the chick at the coffee shop is annoying. I hate people that force their way into other people's lives, acting like she knows him and can talk down to him. What if Wataru was developmentally challenged, or suffered trauma as a child, and she's busting his ass and doesn't even know him?

But aside from all that, I like everyone else.

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Originally Posted by Sentai

Gaim ep 10

The truth about Zangetsu, the Helheim forest, oh we're so close >_< Though where Ryugen got Kiwi from confuses me, did he steal that to? I like his plan though. I just don't know well it'll work.

Kiwi Arms showed up in the movie.

[Kamen Rider Lucha]

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

So far my other opinons on Kiva, just about done episode three, is that Otoya is fucking horrible. God that's an irritating person, and this is Kiva's dad?

I thought that at first, too. But he quickly becomes the best character. Give it like, 10 episodes and you'll be on his side.

[SPLIT LIP]

10 episodes?

At that point I'm more inclined to think you just come down with Stockholm Syndrome rather than see any actual improvement.

[algo448]

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

10 episodes?

At that point I'm more inclined to think you just come down with Stockholm Syndrome rather than see any actual improvement.

Maybe 10 episodes isn't the right number, but the guy really grows on you, most people agree he's one of the best things about Kiva.