[Locke]

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Originally Posted by ComicGuy89

Mecha cockpit revealed courtesy of gantar of Rangerboard.

Not feeling it, I like cockpits that look like cockpits. That looks like the set of a gameshow or something. I will always much prefer cockpits like the stuff found in Go-Busters, as they looked like real cockpits. Hell I don't even mind Mikazuki's cockpit because at least that is distinctly alien, and doesn't just look like someone sat at a table or something.

[Kamen Rider Lucha]

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Originally Posted by Locke

Not feeling it, I like cockpits that look like cockpits. That looks like the set of a gameshow or something. I will always much prefer cockpits like the stuff found in Go-Busters, as they looked like real cockpits. Hell I don't even mind Mikazuki's cockpit because at least that is distinctly alien, and doesn't just look like someone sat at a table or something.

Definitely see where you're coming from, but the Dekaranger/Go-Busters style cockpits are my least favorite. While I dig the intricacies of the design, I mostly hate when Super Sentai producers attempt realism. They're not good at it.

Whenever they try, it takes away from the manic, surrealist fun of the genre.

That said, I agree with you on Mikazuki's cockpit. As much as I hated that first episode, I did love the Buddha cockpit.

[ThisGuy]

I'm going to go into this show with an open mind but damn does it sound wired as hell. HAND PUPPET MONKEY!!!!!! A robot that looks like she is pole dancing in a train. Second thought... I'm going to love this show.

[algo448]

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Lucha

Go-Busters' cockpits are my least favorite. I hate when sentai attempts realism. They're not good at it.

Whenever they try, it takes away from the manic, surrealist fun of the genre.

Really? I loved those cockpits and thought that they fit the Real Robot genre they were going for.

The ToQger cockpits are pretty sweet too.

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Lucha

Definitely see where you're coming from, but the Dekaranger/Go-Busters style cockpits are my least favorite. While I dig the intricacies of the design, I mostly hate when Super Sentai producers attempt realism. They're not good at it.

Whenever they try, it takes away from the manic, surrealist fun of the genre.

That said, I agree with you on Mikazuki's cockpit. As much as I hated that first episode, I did love the Buddha cockpit.

Equally, I LOVED the design of the President's, many claptraps. Huge levers and pulleys, big classic buttons and huge, heavy looking hatches with bare, metal walls. If anything that would have probably worked great for this as well.

Would love to see two Rangers yank down on a huge, heavy lever together and seeing Tokkyu One smashing down a huge red button for the finisher.

I dunno, I've just been a firm disbeliever in toku giant stuff. I can swallow rubber monsters, and spandex wirework because for the most park it genuinely looks pretty decent, save for the onshow zip every now and then but with the giant stuff it rarely seems like they are actually trying with horrendous flimsy suits, and awful close ups that expose the miniatures and cardboard nature of the buildings that should just be avoided.

And then it just adds insult to injury when the Rangers are sat in a room that feels completely disconnected from the outside world, and you can clearly see the set beyond in their visor. At least when Go-busters cut away, we could see the fight through their cockpit window, and they had ranges of monitors and lots of buttons to keep themselves busy and connected to the action.

[Kamen Rider Lucha]

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Originally Posted by ThisGuy

I'm going to go into this show with an open mind but damn does it sound wired as hell. HAND PUPPET MONKEY!!!!!! A robot that looks like she is pole dancing in a train. Second thought... I'm going to love this show.

Monkey Puppet is classic Kobayashi. Reminds me of Prof Maki's doll in OOOs.

Man, I love it when Kobayashi gets weird.

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Originally Posted by algo448

Really? I loved those cockpits and thought that they fit the Real Robot genre they were going for.

The ToQger cockpits are pretty sweet too.

Yeah, I mean, they looked cool and everything, but I think it's more dynamic when the team shares a single, giant cockpit in the gattai robos. It may not make as much logical sense, but I think it makes for better team interaction. And like I said, I don't like sentai realism. For me, the more absurd and outlandish the show goes, the better.

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Originally Posted by Locke

I dunno, I've just been a firm disbeliever in toku giant stuff. I can swallow rubber monsters, and spandex wirework because for the most park it genuinely looks pretty decent, save for the onshow zip every now and then but with the giant stuff it rarely seems like they are actually trying with horrendous flimsy suits, and awful close ups that expose the miniatures and cardboard nature of the buildings that should just be avoided.

See, that's exactly why I like the weirder stuff. I like the strange, rubber and cardboard artificiality of the giant robot fights, and when the production design introduces "realistic" elements, it tips over my precariously balanced suspension of disbelief and rips me right out of the show. That's why I prefer things like the Magiranger chess-board cockpits or the Gokaiger cockpits. They look cool, but are really surreal.

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And then it just adds insult to injury when the Rangers are sat in a room that feels completely disconnected from the outside world, and you can clearly see the set beyond in their visor. At least when Go-busters cut away, we could see the fight through their cockpit window, and they had ranges of monitors and lots of buttons to keep themselves busy and connected to the action.

I agree, though the visor reflections I've never really noticed.

I think there needs to be a lot of stuff for the Rangers to physically mess around with in the cockpit. It's why I like the Gokaiger cockpit -- when the tension ratchets up, they can dramatically spin their ship wheels. It's also why I wish this cockpit had pull-cord train whistles or a brake lever. Something physical they can interact with instead of just waving their hands around, voguing like they're in a scifi-themed Madonna music video.

[algo448]

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Lucha

Yeah, I mean, they looked cool and everything, but I think it's more dynamic when the team shares a single, giant cockpit in the gattai robos. It may not make as much logical sense, but I think it makes for better team interaction. And like I said, I don't like sentai realism. For me, the more absurd and outlandish the show goes, the better.

I get your point, but given that Go-Busters tried to go for realism, that explains the change.

[XW1n5t0nX]

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Lucha

The ToQgers all have amnesia? And they've known each other since childhood? And they're fighting to restore their memories?

Makes you wonder though, if they have amnesia, how did they know they were friends?

[ElConvoy]

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Originally Posted by XW1n5t0nX

Makes you wonder though, if they have amnesia, how did they know they were friends?

Its only a small part of their memorie that is lost.

Personally I really like what I am seeing so far. Only thing thats a little dissappointing is the fact that they do the color swapping to change the exclusive weapons...its kinda lame but whatever xD

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Lucha

See, that's exactly why I like the weirder stuff. I like the strange, rubber and cardboard artificiality of the giant robot fights, and when the production design introduces "realistic" elements, it tips over my precariously balanced suspension of disbelief and rips me right out of the show. That's why I prefer things like the Magiranger chess-board cockpits or the Gokaiger cockpits. They look cool, but are really surreal.



I agree, though the visor reflections I've never really noticed.

I think there needs to be a lot of stuff for the Rangers to physically mess around with in the cockpit. It's why I like the Gokaiger cockpit -- when the tension ratchets up, they can dramatically spin their ship wheels. It's also why I wish this cockpit had pull-cord train whistles or a brake lever. Something physical they can interact with instead of just waving their hands around, voguing like they're in a scifi-themed Madonna music video.

I dunno, I just loved Ace really when I say I loved Go-Busters shit. I mean I loved the cockpits in general, but in terms of external design, I love how Ace LOOKED like a mech and then turned into the frickin' batmobile. And a cheetah, for good measure. I think Ace is like the only robo in the whole franchise that looks like a genuine giant robot.

I think the Goseiger cockpits are some of the worst. They handles in that had no details, and appeared to be stuck in place. About all they did was slam their hand on their desks, and they didn't even hide how hollow it sounded. Awful. And that says a lot since all the Dairangers used were Plasma Balls, lol.