[ShockerCon]

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Originally Posted by losondro

Now it makes sense why Kaitou is getting an energy rider form.

Yeah. I guess Takatora's getting voted off the island?

[Den-O]

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Originally Posted by losondro

Now it makes sense why Kaitou is getting an energy rider form.

Makes even more sense that it's Lemon based too. My wager is that Ryoma will craft an extra Genesis Driver for Kaitou and an extra Lemon ELS. Or he'll kill Ryoma and take his. Either way works out

[uchihabro77]

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Originally Posted by Den-O

Makes even more sense that it's Lemon based too. My wager is that Ryoma will craft an extra Genesis Driver for Kaitou and an extra Lemon ELS. Or he'll kill Ryoma and take his. Either way works out

I see the first one, it seems to me like Ryoma is kind of the leader of the group, with Takatora and DJ Sagara being the only other two in Yggdrasil with other motives. Reminds me, what the hell is the DJ up too?

[Kiryu]

So is it probably a safe bet to assume that Alternate Mai is a survivor of this lost civilization?

If not survivor then maybe a ghost.

[xSkullheartx]

I remain on the side of Kaitou. Something just isn't right. He wants power,but he doesn't seem like the type to throw an entire world away for it.I think he's either bluffing and will get a mixed form like Gaim by stealing a sideplate and taking either cherry or peach by killing them,or Gaim will beat him and snap him back to his senses.

My main reasoning for this is that he is the secondary rider for this series.There is Ryugen but how many times have we seen him in suit fighting along side Kouta recently compared to Baron? Yeah I understand he saw the civilization first,but he also was very underhanded for most of the series.

[MrHerofan]

Well ummm, I dont think any other Toku show will compare to this one in terms of writing.

This episode was great, seeing how the Helhiem could be on another planet or something, and who thought at like episode 5 we would get this far, from dance crews?

Now as to why Ryugen doesn't have a silver strap yet is sorta a mystery, but what's been happening with the show, I can't blame 'em.

Now I would love to see how this series wraps up, and what the Helheim choosing one person thing means, because I think it might be the summer movie and shortly after Gaim ends.

Now I really feel bad for what comes after Gaim, and Kamen Rider as a whole.

[Den-O]

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Originally Posted by Kiryu

So is it probably a safe bet to assume that Alternate Mai is a survivor of this lost civilization?

If not survivor then maybe a ghost.

I know she hasn't exactly aged but she could still be Mai from the future, maybe?

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Originally Posted by xSkullheartx

I remain on the side of Kaitou. Something just isn't right. He wants power,but he doesn't seem like the type to throw an entire world away for it.I think he's either bluffing and will get a mixed form like Gaim by stealing a sideplate and taking either cherry or peach by killing them,or Gaim will beat him and snap him back to his senses.

My main reasoning for this is that he is the secondary rider for this series.There is Ryugen but how many times have we seen him in suit fighting along side Kouta recently compared to Baron? Yeah I understand he saw the civilization first,but he also was very underhanded for most of the series.

It won't be a mix form. The teaser image we've seen looks almost identical to Duke's Lemon Energy Arms. It even has the lemon bun ears on the helmet. I'd say there's a much greater chance that it's just like a Shin Baron form or something. It's just a plain Lemon Energy Rams on a new base Baron suit. We know it's a lemon form and it doesn't resemble a Jinba multi-type arms.

[NGW]

Wait, were people saying this episode was filler? WHAT?!?!?!?

There was so much packed into this episode, a ton of backstory, plot progression, lore, foreshadowing, characterization, motivations, revelations, holy hell what an episode!

Also, totally gonna pull a Den-O here and say "called it!". I've been saying for a while now that I really don't think that Yggdrasil are the bad guys, that once we actually saw why they were doing what they were doing that maybe, just maybe, they are actually RIGHT. I mean sure, from the looks of things Sid, Yoko, and Ryouma may have their own agenda, and they're wanting to bring Kaito in with them, but..well, they're not exactly siding with Yggdrasil in doing so.

As for DJ Sagara, I honestly think he is probably tied much more closesly to Helheim than just spouting things like "we don't know who Helheim will choose" and the like (and we, of course, still don't know what that is actually about). Honestly I think there's a chance that he is a remnant of whatever civilization was taken before or is connected to Helheim in some way beyond just being a part of Yggdrasil.

Freaking fantastic episode. There was a bit of action here and there, but I liked how dialogue heavy it was. We really really needed an episode like this.

[losondro]

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Originally Posted by Den-O

I know she hasn't exactly aged but she could still be Mai from the future, maybe?


It won't be a mix form. The teaser image we've seen looks almost identical to Duke's Lemon Energy Arms. It even has the lemon bun ears on the helmet. I'd say there's a much greater chance that it's just like a Shin Baron form or something. It's just a plain Lemon Energy Rams on a new base Baron suit. We know it's a lemon form and it doesn't resemble a Jinba multi-type arms.

I think Shin-Baron will have the red replace the blue.

[Den-O]

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Originally Posted by losondro

I think Shin-Baron will have the red replace the blue.

What blue? Baron's costume is already just red and silver anyway. Duke's suit has blue on it, but the Lemon Energy Arms doesn't at all.