ToQger Episode 4 "Don't Forget Your Personal Belongings" Discussion

Thessair · 03-11-2014, 08:42 AM

Grah. No DDLs for the subs yet.

EnerPrime · 03-11-2014, 09:50 AM

I gotta say, I wasn't all that fond of the ToQ suit designs when I first saw them, but seeing them in action is making them grow on me.

ComicGuy89 · 03-11-2014, 11:08 AM

Enjoyed it a lot as usual. The fights are always really fun and frenetic and I love that. I think Right really likes being Pink somehow.

Glad this also confirms that most adults can't see the Rainbow Line. Maybe the fights really are invisible to the average human.

Goon · 03-11-2014, 11:12 AM

Pretty good episode.. I think I like last episode a little more, but the monster here was pretty cool. For some reason I just noticed the helmet design a little more.. They all have like different train features on them.. A little more detail than I had originally thought.

I could have done for a little bit more fighting.. But the zord battle at the end really made up for it. Good episode overall.

Blade Raider · 03-11-2014, 12:19 PM

This week's ToQger is totally a Joe and Sora episode. All it needs is a Bakemon.

The episode was okay, though I'm getting a bit tired of them throwing the word imagination around without really using it.

Locke · 03-11-2014, 02:56 PM

Although the implementation/execution of the ToQ pass = money thing left a lot to be desired - how'd he return the items if he left the pass behind? - I at least appreciated the effort.

It may be a largely irrelevant point for children, but as an adult living in a money controlled world, there are quite a few toku shows where I'm amazingly jealous that they seem to have infinite amounts of money they can just seemingly summon out of thin air with sheer quantity of STUFF they seem to have every episode.

Mio continues to grow as my favourite member of the team, proving herself now in pretty much every episode that she's the glue that holds the team together. Both of our girls have thus far been well used, which is surprising for sentai.

Although this show is goofier than perhaps I'd like it's much more intelligent in its use of self aware humour than Kyoryuger ever was. So there were some really fun moments.

And although this was probably the weakest villain so far (in a LOT of ways) I pretty much love every fight scene in this show, not because of the gimmick or anything like that just because I LOVE the theme. Someone smoking a cigarette in an arm chair could look epic with that theme playing over the top.

And to give the show credit, the way Kagura drags the weapons around and Takotti pushes up his tracks and stuff are really fun little details for when they're transformed.

It's ironic that for a show that puts so much effort into the world building, characterisation etc it's surprising just how much the mech portion in this show SUCKS even by sentai standards. I was really really excited for enemy mechs, but then that is what we got. After Gobus and Kyoryuger and even to an extent ToQ-Oh, was it THAT HARD to even make them look like robots? The Crows driving are more interesting than the generic footsoldier looking suit they used for the DarkLiner Robos. It didn't break the episode for me as I don't really care for the mech stuff, and usually the mech stuff in this show is pretty throwaway as it is, but the pain of a wasted opportunity always stings a lot. It really stings. *wipes away tear*

Overall, I'm going with good simply because I KNOW this show can do better even if this episode was pretty great overall. And at least I know that after last weeks episode, this show can also be a lot worse while still being really enjoyable. It's a fantastic start to the show, with a few minor hiccups, and I'm honestly very excited for more. Is it possible I could be enjoying the current sentai more than the current Rider?!

Paladin · 03-11-2014, 06:38 PM

How exactly does the pass work? Wagon says "they have to pay it off" but how would they get money for that??

ShockerCon · 03-11-2014, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Paladin

How exactly does the pass work? Wagon says "they have to pay it off" but how would they get money for that??

Well, they're shown "working off the debt" by cleaning the cabin at the end. I suppose they could do it the old fashioned way, if any of them had real money or a job...

Blade Raider · 03-11-2014, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paladin

How exactly does the pass work? Wagon says "they have to pay it off" but how would they get money for that??

The same way Wagon gets money

Paladin · 03-11-2014, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ShockerCon

Well, they're shown "working off the debt" by cleaning the cabin at the end. I suppose they could do it the old fashioned way, if any of them had real money or a job...

Seems kinda lazy to me.

They could go all-out with the money thing and have Conductor pay the ToQGers whenever they defeat one of the Shadow Line to clear the balance on their passes.

Not that this was a bad episode or anything. Though I kinda liked it better when this happened to Umeko in Dekaranger.

03-11-2014, 09:50 AM	#12
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03-11-2014, 11:08 AM	#13
ComicGuy89 Master of Water Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,246	Enjoyed it a lot as usual. The fights are always really fun and frenetic and I love that. I think Right really likes being Pink somehow. Glad this also confirms that most adults can't see the Rainbow Line. Maybe the fights really are invisible to the average human. __________________ \|deviantART link\| Last edited by ComicGuy89; 03-11-2014 at 11:10 AM..

03-11-2014, 12:19 PM	#15
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03-11-2014, 02:56 PM	#16
Locke Big Bad Wolf. Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Raiding tombs. Posts: 9,529	Although the implementation/execution of the ToQ pass = money thing left a lot to be desired - how'd he return the items if he left the pass behind? - I at least appreciated the effort. It may be a largely irrelevant point for children, but as an adult living in a money controlled world, there are quite a few toku shows where I'm amazingly jealous that they seem to have infinite amounts of money they can just seemingly summon out of thin air with sheer quantity of STUFF they seem to have every episode. Mio continues to grow as my favourite member of the team, proving herself now in pretty much every episode that she's the glue that holds the team together. Both of our girls have thus far been well used, which is surprising for sentai. Although this show is goofier than perhaps I'd like it's much more intelligent in its use of self aware humour than Kyoryuger ever was. So there were some really fun moments. And although this was probably the weakest villain so far (in a LOT of ways) I pretty much love every fight scene in this show, not because of the gimmick or anything like that just because I LOVE the theme. Someone smoking a cigarette in an arm chair could look epic with that theme playing over the top. And to give the show credit, the way Kagura drags the weapons around and Takotti pushes up his tracks and stuff are really fun little details for when they're transformed. It's ironic that for a show that puts so much effort into the world building, characterisation etc it's surprising just how much the mech portion in this show SUCKS even by sentai standards. I was really really excited for enemy mechs, but then that is what we got. After Gobus and Kyoryuger and even to an extent ToQ-Oh, was it THAT HARD to even make them look like robots? The Crows driving are more interesting than the generic footsoldier looking suit they used for the DarkLiner Robos. It didn't break the episode for me as I don't really care for the mech stuff, and usually the mech stuff in this show is pretty throwaway as it is, but the pain of a wasted opportunity always stings a lot. It really stings. wipes away tear Overall, I'm going with good simply because I KNOW this show can do better even if this episode was pretty great overall. And at least I know that after last weeks episode, this show can also be a lot worse while still being really enjoyable. It's a fantastic start to the show, with a few minor hiccups, and I'm honestly very excited for more. Is it possible I could be enjoying the current sentai more than the current Rider?! __________________

03-11-2014, 06:38 PM	#17
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