[Blade Raider]

These Drivers were made so that humans could process Helheim's fruit (Lockseeds) and survive the forest. Each and every Driver has it's own suit design programed in aka Pre-Arms form. The Pre-Arms form comes from the belt, not the fruit. The armor (Arms) comes from the fruit. We know Ryouma takes a guilty pleasure from designing the Riders. All Pre-Arm designs and belt sounds are a result of Ryouma's playtime (except for Kachidoki Arms, which is DJ Sagara's doing).


Zangetsu's Sengoku Driver: This is the original prototype created before the show began. We do not know if it's DNA locked. All we know is that it was made for Takatora when he voluntarily became the first test subject and it did harm him.

Takatora likely still has this belt.


Sengoku Driver prototype experiment: There are 6 these given to "random" people through Sid. This was a blind experiment to test what effects of the driver had on a normal person before fine tuning the mass production model. These are DNA locked for data gathering purposes. If these were not DNA locked, then the data would be very inaccurate at best. Pre-Arms designs were most likely matched to the Lockseeds they were sold with. The belt is yellow.

The following Riders currently use this model: Gaim, Ryugen, and Baron.


Mass Production Sengoku Driver: This is the final product after the experiments above. These are not DNA locked and mostly use Hase's Kurokage Pre-Arms suit (with minor changes). It's worth noting that Knuckle's belt was stolen from Ryouma's desk. He was most likely playing with the Pre-Arms design and that's why Knuckle is different from Kurokage. The belt is silver.

The following Riders currently use this model: Bravo, Gridon (both upgraded some time ago), Knuckle, and all Kurokage troopers.


Genesis Driver: The Driver made for Energy Lockseeds. This is a mass production model made to use a more rare Lockseed type the Sengoku Driver cannot normally use. Like all mass production models, the Genesis Driver is not DNA locked. Ryouma had the "leaders" in mind when designing the Pre-Arms suits. Giving Sid a "heroic" design and giving himself a king like design. Baron's Genesis Driver was programed with his normal Pre-Arms (Baron's and Duke's Genesis Drivers are not the same driver).

The following Riders currently use this model: Shin Zangetsu, Sigurd, Duke, Marika, and Baron.


Genesis Core: A unfinished, but functional, prototype Ryouma created to allow the Sengoku Driver to use and "mix" Energy Lockseeds. DJ Sagara stole this prototype and gave it to Kouta. Ryouma doesn't seem to have the ability to make another at this time or dropped it for a different reason.

Kachidoki Arms: This one's all DJ Sagara's doing. He maybe Q.

[Powerman293]

Fuck Urobochi for introducing belt swapping this late into the show.

It's not even the problem of explaining how the belts work. For his so called "amazing" foreshadowing and setting up for elements used later, that everyone seems to be sucking his dick for, he pulls this out of his ass.

This episode was okay. I like the fact that Ryoma and gang finally came out and did something to Takatora (even if its on the basis that he's teaming up with some kid). Takatora's not dead, so I don't know.

Micchy is definatley giving off some Kusaka vibes. From the fact he's using someone else's belt and Rider identity to get the two into conflict, its really starting to piss me off. Let's hope he doesn't go full on Tiger and kill his mentor and friend.

[SPLIT LIP]

I still don't understand how people think the lock seeds determine the suits. When the prototypes were put on, they generated the faceplate, showing the rider's face. The driver determines the base suit, not the lock seed.

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Originally Posted by Powerman293

Fuck Urobochi for introducing belt swapping this late into the show.

It's not even the problem of explaining how the belts work. For his so called "amazing" foreshadowing and setting up for elements used later, that everyone seems to be sucking his dick for, he pulls this out of his ass.

Angry, much? Need a time out?

[XW1n5t0nX]

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Originally Posted by Powerman293

Fuck Urobochi for introducing belt swapping this late into the show.

It's not even the problem of explaining how the belts work. For his so called "amazing" foreshadowing and setting up for elements used later, that everyone seems to be sucking his dick for, he pulls this out of his ass.

This episode was okay. I like the fact that Ryoma and gang finally came out and did something to Takatora (even if its on the basis that he's teaming up with some kid). Takatora's not dead, so I don't know.

Micchy is definatley giving off some Kusaka vibes. From the fact he's using someone else's belt and Rider identity to get the two into conflict, its really starting to piss me off. Let's hope he doesn't go full on Tiger and kill his mentor and friend.

Kusaka + Tiger would equal the biggest asshole in Rider ever. And I'd probably like him

[Kiryu]

So is it safe to say that Miichi is beyond redemption now?

[losondro]

I think I'll put Micchy in the same category as Kirei Kotomine from Fate/Zero (Stay Night).

[ComicGuy89]

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Originally Posted by Powerman293

Fuck Urobochi for introducing belt swapping this late into the show.

It's not even the problem of explaining how the belts work. For his so called "amazing" foreshadowing and setting up for elements used later, that everyone seems to be sucking his dick for, he pulls this out of his ass.

This episode was okay. I like the fact that Ryoma and gang finally came out and did something to Takatora (even if its on the basis that he's teaming up with some kid). Takatora's not dead, so I don't know.

Micchy is definatley giving off some Kusaka vibes. From the fact he's using someone else's belt and Rider identity to get the two into conflict, its really starting to piss me off. Let's hope he doesn't go full on Tiger and kill his mentor and friend.

What's wrong with belt swapping? I thought it was established only the Prototype ones (with yellow belts) were locked into your biological signature?

[Galvantula]

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So is it safe to say that Miichi is beyond redemption now?

It seems to be this way and to be honest we all knew Ryugen was going to be evil. We just didn't know how evil he really was once word of who White Tiger Invess reached Mai and all that fake sweetness faded away like ink in the summer sun.

Though I do wonder if we can make cantaloupe puns for the new Zangetsu Shin and should we use Mitch's full name now that he's not the little guy in Team Gaim anymore? Seems weird that most everyone here hates him (and with good reason I might add) yet we call him by his pet name. A name that doesn't really fit a evil mastermind.

[Thessair]

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Originally Posted by Galvantula

It seems to be this way and to be honest we all knew Ryugen was going to be evil. We just didn't know how evil he really was once word of who White Tiger Invess reached Mai and all that fake sweetness faded away like ink in the summer sun.

Though I do wonder if we can make cantaloupe puns for the new Zangetsu Shin and should we use Mitch's full name now that he's not the little guy in Team Gaim anymore? Seems weird that most everyone here hates him (and with good reason I might add) yet we call him by his pet name. A name that doesn't really fit a evil mastermind.

I wouldn't call it a pet name. It's the name he goes by with his (former) friends and it's how Kouta, Mai, and the other Beat Riders think of him. That's the name and persona they will associate with his betrayal and it doesn't seem out-of-place to refer to him as that in discussion.

That's just my $.02 on the matter.

[EnerPrime]

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Originally Posted by Kiryu

So is it safe to say that Miichi is beyond redemption now?

No, I wouldn't say he's beyond redemption. He's definitly done some bad things, but he hasn't sucessfully done anything irreversable yet(Kaito stopped him from killing Kouta, and there's no real way he could have stopped Ryouma's attempt on Takatora's life). There's still time for him to realise he's become a villain and try to fix it. Though knowing Urobuchi it would most likely be a 'redemption means death' scenario, and he dies after taking a hit for Kouta, Takatora or Mai.

Personally I kinda hope he does figure out what he's become. I feel kinda bad for a guy who spent his whole life following other's instructions and plans, then goes mad with power once he gets some control himself. He finally seems happy for a little while, and then Takatora shows him the secret of Helheim and his whole life starts crumbling around him.