[Starscream Gaga]

I think the bigger problem with Godzilla's lack of appearance was how little he actually mattered to the plot. The movie was MUTO's show, hell, scenes in the trailer even have Godzilla in the place of where MUTO is on the final product (such as the train bridge). All Godzilla really contributed to the plot was a way to get rid of the MUTO.

Heaps of people (not on this forum) have made a comparison to Jaws and Alien, however I'm inclined to agree with my brother when he says "that comparison only works if Jaws was called "Giant Shark" but was actually mostly about a giant crocodile". I personally think, for the first in a reboot, Godzilla himself should've been a bit more important to the overall story. The promotional material definitely implied a far more Godzilla centered film and that's what I was personally hoping for. The MUTO were cool and all, but they were FAR more plot relevant then the Big G himself.

Also I don't think the Hawaii scene built tension as much as it just frustrated the audience. The TV screen copout was weird. Maybe a second viewing will improve it for me but I was wanting more.

[MagiRed]

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Originally Posted by Den-O

The whole thing about there "not being enough Godzilla" in this movie is to build tension.

Exactly. It kinda irks me to hear how people are complaining about that aspect, But hey... Some people wanted to see more and I was happy with the "less is more" approach they took.

[Shin Henshin]

Increased focus on Godzilla would have made the film more of a giant slugfest rather than an actual plotted movie. It would have looked nice, but it would have lost its flair rather quickly.

The way they did it made you look forward to every Godzilla vs. Muto scene, thus making the pay-off that much more worth it.

I remembered another thing I liked. I liked the role given to Godzilla. He's the alpha-predator who fights off any renegade or rampaging monsters that may be upsetting the current balance of the world. He'll still destroy stuff and there will be casualties in the long-run, but in the end he's ultimately on our side. A nice twist on the whole "Righteous Godzilla" depiction.

[Den-O]

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Originally Posted by Shin Henshin

Increased focus on Godzilla would have made the film more of a giant slugfest rather than an actual plotted movie. It would have looked nice, but it would have lost its flair rather quickly.

The way they did it made you look forward to every Godzilla vs. Muto scene, thus making the pay-off that much more worth it.

I remembered another thing I liked. I liked the role given to Godzilla. He's the alpha-predator who fights off any renegade or rampaging monsters that may be upsetting the current balance of the world. He'll still destroy stuff and there will be casualties in the long-run, but in the end he's ultimately on our side. A nice twist on the whole "Righteous Godzilla" depiction.

Increasing the exposure of the monsters themselves would have turned this into a licensed character version of Garreth Edwards previous film Monsters, which is awful. He learned from that mistake to craft this excellent film.

And you're totally right. The Alpha Predator idea really hearkens to Godzilla's true character. We see him as the anti-hero of sorts that some times defends humanity, but only as a by-product rather than actively. Here it's the same but at a very basic natural predator level. He restores the balance. I love that.

[xSkullheartx]

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Originally Posted by Den-O

I will say that ending is totally jacked from Dark Knight Rises. The way the nuke explodes in the ocean and the hero makes it out just barely.



Still fantastic though.

That's the thing that bugs me most about Ford and the nuke

To me,Johnson's acting was pretty dry. It was all the same tone,no matter what the situation was. Even his yelling pretty much had the same tone.

As for him not doing anything,I guess I should word it correctly. Everything he said he was going to do,he failed. Spontaneous actions,like blowing up the nest,he succeeded. Case in point. He told his wife that he'd bring back his dad. Failed. He said he would ride the train to San Fran and told his wife he would get them out of the city. Failed. He said he would disarm the nuke. Failed. Return the kid to his parents. Failed. (Yeah,the kid made it back,but not before Ford almost lost him. Heck,the parents didn't even realize Ford brought him back) I understand they were trying to get across that mankind isn't perfect,but damn. lol

As for there not being enough Godzilla,I agree that is bull. There was just enough Godzilla to make it perfect. Now the critics are all switching to "Well why didn't they focus more on Godzilla?" I agree with them to a degree on that point,but how well the movie did and how well it was received,we can always get that in a sequel. Heck,the big guy is revealed now,so they can't spend half the movie hiding him.

[Dr Kain]

I hate to say it, but I guess movie audiences today just don't understand the concept of pacing and plot. They want a non-stop 90 minute action sequence at the end of the movie that has nothing but Bayplosions and no plot or character development.

If people don't like this movie, that is fine. However, a lot of the complaints people are making are in EVERY Godzilla movie. Rarely is there A LOT of the monster until the final sequence, especially during the Showa era, which is what this movie felt like it was paying homage to.

[SideswipePrime]

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Originally Posted by Shin Henshin

Increased focus on Godzilla would have made the film more of a giant slugfest rather than an actual plotted movie. It would have looked nice, but it would have lost its flair rather quickly.

The way they did it made you look forward to every Godzilla vs. Muto scene, thus making the pay-off that much more worth it.

I remembered another thing I liked. I liked the role given to Godzilla. He's the alpha-predator who fights off any renegade or rampaging monsters that may be upsetting the current balance of the world. He'll still destroy stuff and there will be casualties in the long-run, but in the end he's ultimately on our side. A nice twist on the whole "Righteous Godzilla" depiction.

This movie sounds really neat. I like the "Heroic Godzilla" interpretation.

[Starscream Gaga]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

I hate to say it, but I guess movie audiences today just don't understand the concept of pacing and plot. They want a non-stop 90 minute action sequence at the end of the movie that has nothing but Bayplosions and no plot or character development.

If people don't like this movie, that is fine. However, a lot of the complaints people are making are in EVERY Godzilla movie. Rarely is there A LOT of the monster until the final sequence, especially during the Showa era, which is what this movie felt like it was paying homage to.

This movie wasn't exactly full of plot and character development, so don't make such a silly blanket statement. It wasn't necessarily bad in that regard, but the main character himself doesn't have a decipherable character trait about him either then "he's nice" and the plot wasn't exactly anything to get super-excited about. The movie wasn't bad at all, it was good, but I actually think a lot of this forum is exaggerating just how good simply because it was a good Godzilla movie (which is admittedly a rarity) and are fan boying a bit.

Its not that the movie lacked monsters and action, it had plenty, just comparatively little of it had Godzilla in it. I just would've preferred Godzilla be more important to the plot. Take him out and replace him with practically anything that could kill the MUTO and you have practically the same story. The bait and switch promotional material didn't help either. Not only did they make it seem like Joe was the main character, scenes of the MUTO appear to be edited to feature Godzilla, even if he wasn't in the scenes at all.

I think the problem is that Pacific Rim before it balanced both decently, but Godzilla was far more one then the other. Pacific Rim also ended with a more memorable cast and what I consider a funner, less serious kaiju movie.

[WhiteRanger]

Ok I just been watching Godzilla king of monster the first American adaption due to how it was made. Now I am looking back to 2014 and to king of monsters and I feel like it was taken elements from king of monsters.

[ZeoRangerV]

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Originally Posted by Starscream Gaga

This movie wasn't exactly full of plot and character development, so don't make such a silly blanket statement. It wasn't necessarily bad in that regard, but the main character himself doesn't have a decipherable character trait about him either then "he's nice" and the plot wasn't exactly anything to get super-excited about. The movie wasn't bad at all, it was good, but I actually think a lot of this forum is exaggerating just how good simply because it was a good Godzilla movie (which is admittedly a rarity) and are fan boying a bit.

Its not that the movie lacked monsters and action, it had plenty, just comparatively little of it had Godzilla in it. I just would've preferred Godzilla be more important to the plot. Take him out and replace him with practically anything that could kill the MUTO and you have practically the same story. The bait and switch promotional material didn't help either. Not only did they make it seem like Joe was the main character, scenes of the MUTO appear to be edited to feature Godzilla, even if he wasn't in the scenes at all.

I think the problem is that Pacific Rim before it balanced both decently, but Godzilla was far more one then the other. Pacific Rim also ended with a more memorable cast and what I consider a funner, less serious kaiju movie.

Agreed 100%.
(Well, apart from the bit about good Godzilla films being a rarity )