Kamen Rider Gaim Speculation/Rumors Thread

Talisman · 05-16-2014, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kickback

So.

With the revelation that Helheim is NOT the future and not an "Alternate Universe", just some sort of alternate dimension, I'm really scratching my head on who and what Alt Mai is. Is she another Overlord, taken human/spirit form? Is she a physical representation of a Lockseed?

I'm confident in my thought that DJ Sagura is actually the main Overlord, but Alt Mai still confuses me.

My best guess? She's a Lockseed (the final Apple one) and took the form of what all three Riders (the only 3 that have seen her) want the most - Mai. We know Kouta wants her, as he's super giddy when she's nice to him. Obviously Micchy wants her because he's trying to kill Kouta over her, and Kaito has shown some affection (in his own emo way) towards her.

But obviously Kouta will get her because unlike Micchy who wants her for himself and Kaito who wants her for what she can do for him, Kouta wants her to protect her, which is the most noble and thus, the most deserving. The forest will choose him, and she will turn in to the Lockseed for him to use. Probably after something happens to Mai.

Just speculation.

I'm wondering if this somehow ties into Mai's past. She wanted to be a miko for the tree shrine, which was built around a tree that sprouted from a seed from Helheim, which is currently housed in Yggdrasil headquarters after they took over the area.

xSkullheartx · 05-16-2014, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kickback

So.

With the revelation that Helheim is NOT the future and not an "Alternate Universe", just some sort of alternate dimension, I'm really scratching my head on who and what Alt Mai is. Is she another Overlord, taken human/spirit form? Is she a physical representation of a Lockseed?

I'm confident in my thought that DJ Sagura is actually the main Overlord, but Alt Mai still confuses me.

My best guess? She's a Lockseed (the final Apple one) and took the form of what all three Riders (the only 3 that have seen her) want the most - Mai. We know Kouta wants her, as he's super giddy when she's nice to him. Obviously Micchy wants her because he's trying to kill Kouta over her, and Kaito has shown some affection (in his own emo way) towards her.

But obviously Kouta will get her because unlike Micchy who wants her for himself and Kaito who wants her for what she can do for him, Kouta wants her to protect her, which is the most noble and thus, the most deserving. The forest will choose him, and she will turn in to the Lockseed for him to use. Probably after something happens to Mai.

Just speculation.

But the problem is that the Main Overlord didn't know what the belt was,but the one Overlord with the spear seems to have remembered it somewhat when he first picked it up.

KyoryuGreen · 05-16-2014, 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kickback

So.

With the revelation that Helheim is NOT the future and not an "Alternate Universe", just some sort of alternate dimension, I'm really scratching my head on who and what Alt Mai is. Is she another Overlord, taken human/spirit form? Is she a physical representation of a Lockseed?

I'm confident in my thought that DJ Sagura is actually the main Overlord, but Alt Mai still confuses me.

My best guess? She's a Lockseed (the final Apple one) and took the form of what all three Riders (the only 3 that have seen her) want the most - Mai. We know Kouta wants her, as he's super giddy when she's nice to him. Obviously Micchy wants her because he's trying to kill Kouta over her, and Kaito has shown some affection (in his own emo way) towards her.

But obviously Kouta will get her because unlike Micchy who wants her for himself and Kaito who wants her for what she can do for him, Kouta wants her to protect her, which is the most noble and thus, the most deserving. The forest will choose him, and she will turn in to the Lockseed for him to use. Probably after something happens to Mai.

Just speculation.

Well that might happen because well Kouta is the main character and this is Kamen Rider but this is still Gen Urobuchi so anything can happen. I still think Alt. Mai might still be from the Future and be something kind of like Homura from Madoka.

I mean unless the Forbidden Fruit gives Gaim his Kiwami Arms form which might happen.

TokuChris · 05-19-2014, 01:44 PM

Well, so much for my theories.

Previews for 31 show DJ Sagura standing with the Overlord leader. And they show the Kiwami Lockseed in his hand.

Oh well.

OathToOblivion · 05-19-2014, 01:49 PM

So I was looking at this again...and is it just me, or is that Gaim's face on his chest like #1 Arms?

Suzu · 05-20-2014, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by OathToOblivion

So I was looking at this again...and is it just me, or is that Gaim's face on his chest like #1 Arms?

It's to blurry to make out, but I don't think so- it would be rather cheesy for a final form, wouldn't it?

FormerTitanium · 05-20-2014, 04:22 PM

So much white is going on in Kiwami Arms... Pretty big change compared to Jinba and Kachidoki forms.

losondro · 05-22-2014, 03:24 AM

How did we not catch this?

SideswipePrime · 05-22-2014, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by losondro

How did we not catch this?

We did...OOO posted a picture of that a while back.

Guyver Spawn · 05-22-2014, 02:52 PM

So I take it Kiva and Decade are apart of the W-Gaim universe now?

05-16-2014, 12:45 AM	#1401
Talisman Devil from the Depths Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Airspace B7R Posts: 8,024	Quote: Originally Posted by Kickback So. With the revelation that Helheim is NOT the future and not an "Alternate Universe", just some sort of alternate dimension, I'm really scratching my head on who and what Alt Mai is. Is she another Overlord, taken human/spirit form? Is she a physical representation of a Lockseed? I'm confident in my thought that DJ Sagura is actually the main Overlord, but Alt Mai still confuses me. My best guess? She's a Lockseed (the final Apple one) and took the form of what all three Riders (the only 3 that have seen her) want the most - Mai. We know Kouta wants her, as he's super giddy when she's nice to him. Obviously Micchy wants her because he's trying to kill Kouta over her, and Kaito has shown some affection (in his own emo way) towards her. But obviously Kouta will get her because unlike Micchy who wants her for himself and Kaito who wants her for what she can do for him, Kouta wants her to protect her, which is the most noble and thus, the most deserving. The forest will choose him, and she will turn in to the Lockseed for him to use. Probably after something happens to Mai. Just speculation. I'm wondering if this somehow ties into Mai's past. She wanted to be a miko for the tree shrine, which was built around a tree that sprouted from a seed from Helheim, which is currently housed in Yggdrasil headquarters after they took over the area. __________________ Fly with me on Bluesky! Talisman on MyFigureCollection

05-16-2014, 12:47 AM	#1402
xSkullheartx Charging Up! Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Easton,Pennsylvania Posts: 2,463	Quote: Originally Posted by Kickback So. With the revelation that Helheim is NOT the future and not an "Alternate Universe", just some sort of alternate dimension, I'm really scratching my head on who and what Alt Mai is. Is she another Overlord, taken human/spirit form? Is she a physical representation of a Lockseed? I'm confident in my thought that DJ Sagura is actually the main Overlord, but Alt Mai still confuses me. My best guess? She's a Lockseed (the final Apple one) and took the form of what all three Riders (the only 3 that have seen her) want the most - Mai. We know Kouta wants her, as he's super giddy when she's nice to him. Obviously Micchy wants her because he's trying to kill Kouta over her, and Kaito has shown some affection (in his own emo way) towards her. But obviously Kouta will get her because unlike Micchy who wants her for himself and Kaito who wants her for what she can do for him, Kouta wants her to protect her, which is the most noble and thus, the most deserving. The forest will choose him, and she will turn in to the Lockseed for him to use. Probably after something happens to Mai. Just speculation. But the problem is that the Main Overlord didn't know what the belt was,but the one Overlord with the spear seems to have remembered it somewhat when he first picked it up. __________________

05-16-2014, 04:26 AM	#1403
KyoryuGreen Sky Henshin! Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 4,779	Quote: Originally Posted by Kickback So. With the revelation that Helheim is NOT the future and not an "Alternate Universe", just some sort of alternate dimension, I'm really scratching my head on who and what Alt Mai is. Is she another Overlord, taken human/spirit form? Is she a physical representation of a Lockseed? I'm confident in my thought that DJ Sagura is actually the main Overlord, but Alt Mai still confuses me. My best guess? She's a Lockseed (the final Apple one) and took the form of what all three Riders (the only 3 that have seen her) want the most - Mai. We know Kouta wants her, as he's super giddy when she's nice to him. Obviously Micchy wants her because he's trying to kill Kouta over her, and Kaito has shown some affection (in his own emo way) towards her. But obviously Kouta will get her because unlike Micchy who wants her for himself and Kaito who wants her for what she can do for him, Kouta wants her to protect her, which is the most noble and thus, the most deserving. The forest will choose him, and she will turn in to the Lockseed for him to use. Probably after something happens to Mai. Just speculation. Well that might happen because well Kouta is the main character and this is Kamen Rider but this is still Gen Urobuchi so anything can happen. I still think Alt. Mai might still be from the Future and be something kind of like Homura from Madoka. I mean unless the Forbidden Fruit gives Gaim his Kiwami Arms form which might happen. __________________ My Sales Thread! Lower Prices!

05-19-2014, 01:44 PM	#1404
TokuChris Webmaster, Administrator @TokuChris Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,697	Well, so much for my theories. Previews for 31 show DJ Sagura standing with the Overlord leader. And they show the Kiwami Lockseed in his hand. Oh well. __________________ [ "Like" us on Facebook!]\| [@TokuNation on Instagram] \| @TokuNation on Twitter! ]

05-20-2014, 04:22 PM	#1407
FormerTitanium Tali's Sidekick Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Inside a Tali-Box Posts: 3,492	So much white is going on in Kiwami Arms... Pretty big change compared to Jinba and Kachidoki forms. __________________ *Mr. Knuckleman!*

05-22-2014, 03:24 AM	#1408
losondro Resident priest of Godoka Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,176	How did we not catch this? __________________ Necrozma, thirsts for your light!