[Powerman293]

Quote:

Originally Posted by NGW

Agreed. And what is with your obsession over having a zodiarts rider or a phantom rider? Seriously, it just makes you come across as a typical preteen kid that wants that bad anti-hero/villain type where there really is no reason for it.

Agreed

Having what is essentially 100 Odins for Ryuki would ruin the story and the fight scenes. The point of the mirror monsters was to be a wild card in the fights and to give the characters a reason to fight as the contract monsters eat the other monsters and you don't want your contract monster eating you.

Even if they were just trooper Riders it would still be a bad idea.

[MaskedRiderAsakura]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Powerman293

Agreed

Having what is essentially 100 Odins for Ryuki would ruin the story and the fight scenes. The point of the mirror monsters was to be a wild card in the fights and to give the characters a reason to fight as the contract monsters eat the other monsters and you don't want your contract monster eating you.

Even if they were just trooper Riders it would still be a bad idea.

Exactly. Having every character be a Rider just takes away from the conflict that the show's two main characters go through.

[Suzu]

Personally, I think Rider series with fewer Riders are fine the way they are. The more Riders you introduce, the harder it is to make all of them equally good or interesting characters. Of course, not all of them can be at the exact same level of character development, but it should be more than: Hello, here's another rider, watch how he's cool in one episode and never does anythin useful again.
There's multi-rider shows that do good (Gaim), others that are... not quite as good (Kabuto) and some might be terrible. As long as a writer does a good job on having so many characters it's great, but a small cast of Riders is fine with me as well. I like casts that have more non-Rider characters because it makes the Riders seem much mor unique and it's easier to keep an overview. Except for Gaim, most of my favorite Rider seasons just have a few Riders (OOO, W, Blade...) and I wouldn't need any more riders in those.

[ElConvoy]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzu

Personally, I think Rider series with fewer Riders are fine the way they are. The more Riders you introduce, the harder it is to make all of them equally good or interesting characters. Of course, not all of them can be at the exact same level of character development, but it should be more than: Hello, here's another rider, watch how he's cool in one episode and never does anythin useful again.
There's multi-rider shows that do good (Gaim), others that are... not quite as good (Kabuto) and some might be terrible. As long as a writer does a good job on having so many characters it's great, but a small cast of Riders is fine with me as well. I like casts that have more non-Rider characters because it makes the Riders seem much mor unique and it's easier to keep an overview. Except for Gaim, most of my favorite Rider seasons just have a few Riders (OOO, W, Blade...) and I wouldn't need any more riders in those.

Thas pretty much exactly how I think about the matter. The Show should just do what works for it the best. Some shows wouldnt be the same with a ton of Riders and vice versa.

[henshinzero]

Quote:

Originally Posted by NGW

Agreed. And what is with your obsession over having a zodiarts rider or a phantom rider? Seriously, it just makes you come across as a typical preteen kid that wants that bad anti-hero/villain type where there really is no reason for it.

It's simple. Since Ronuro and Gamou have differences with the core switch and how to meet the Presenters, I was thinking Fourze/Gentaro should have an opposite. The zodiarts rider should represent having enemies. But he'll fight alongside the heroes sometimes and later fully.

And Wizard, they should've had a Mage of their own. He'd be like Chalice. Beast had no reason to come into the show.

[Galvantula]

Quote:

Originally Posted by henshinzero

-snip-.

I don't think you fully understand what NGW and Powerman are getting at here.

You have on record wished for this idea repeatably ; yet the basic idea that not every Rider would work better with more of the Riders seems to be beyond your understanding.

Sometimes it's best to have a few Riders as having them interact with normal humans helps to flesh out the world the show's set in and allows us to form opinions, theories and viewpoints on them; therefore ensuring that we as the viewing audience can enjoy these characters with more than one ideal.

While fighting is a staple of this series most of the time conflicts are formed that aren't caused by physical violence and thus must be solved by alternate means. The ideas you keep pitching as basically stripping Kamen Rider of all subtlety, complexity and worse of all meaningful character interactions. You can get away without nonstop fighting in a video game but a show needs story to keep from being monitious.

Unless you take the time to listen to what we are trying to tell you your ideas will keep being ignored. This is why it pays to allow others to share their viewpoints; as it helps you grow as a story writer.

EDIT: Unbelievable. We've tried to help henshinzero but I think he just stormed off because we kept telling him not to badger us with the same old ideas he's been pitching for some time now.

Either he should start writing his own fan fiction or just stop; because I'm sure no one cares about his 100 Odins or his Zodiart Student Body, which I'm sure he got from Medaka Box's Minus Class 13.