[Dr Kain]

I know someone was doing a discussion on the KR movies a few pages back but I was too busy at the time to really pay attention. For me, the movies are pretty much bad, really bad.

Here are the movies I have seen and my grade of them:

Black 1 - 6/10
Black 2 - 7/10
Agito - 7/10
Ryuki - 7/10
555 - 3/10
Blade - 3/10
Kiva - 4/10
Decade - 2/10
W - 7/10
OOO - 6/10
Fourze - 6/10

The biggest problem I have with the movies are they are flat out boring. A lot of them run about 20 minutes longer than they need to be, while the Sentai movies run 20 minutes shorter than they should be. Each movie should run at about 50 minutes rather than a 30 minute movie and a 90 minute movie, especially when one cannot even develop a plot and the other's plot is so paper thin that half the movie is spent on convoluted banter. Or there are those movies that try to throw too much in when half of the movie cast is irrelevant and just there to die.

EDIT: Crap, I just realized I double posted. Oops, my bad.

[KyoryuGreen]

Black Episode 12: Wow Road Sector is a beast, with how fast it can go, and I really like the top part that goes over it too. Just like Super-1 I like both of Black's bikes right now. I really like the connections between Akira Daimon and Kotaro with both of their parents being involved with Golgom but didn't want their sons to be involved with them. I love how Kotaro convinced him to let himself deal with getting revenge then have his son do it. Also I love that Kotaro always made sure they were save before he went on attacking. I love how the Golgom priests get more involved with some of the fights too. I also love seeing Kotaro using his cybernetic abilities when he isn't transformed like his super-hearing and being able to hear the motorcycle and Bat Mutant. Great to get back to this after not being able to from the weekend.

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

The biggest problem I have with the movies are they are flat out boring. A lot of them run about 20 minutes longer than they need to be, while the Sentai movies run 20 minutes shorter than they should be. Each movie should run at about 50 minutes rather than a 30 minute movie and a 90 minute movie, especially when one cannot even develop a plot and the other's plot is so paper thin that half the movie is spent on convoluted banter. Or there are those movies that try to throw too much in when half of the movie cast is irrelevant and just there to die.

I actually feel the biggest problem with most movies is that they tend to take place in an AU, which instantly throws out any connection I feel to a character since they're acting completely differently or they're in an entirely new situation and setting.
I'm liking that, recently, they tend to take place in canon (To an extent) with the actual series. Despite DVD release and subs meaning I get to watch them far, far later than their intended place in the series, it's nice to see that the movies aren't immediately written off.

[Switchblade]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

I actually feel the biggest problem with most movies is that they tend to take place in an AU, which instantly throws out any connection I feel to a character since they're acting completely differently or they're in an entirely new situation and setting.
I'm liking that, recently, they tend to take place in canon (To an extent) with the actual series. Despite DVD release and subs meaning I get to watch them far, far later than their intended place in the series, it's nice to see that the movies aren't immediately written off.

This. Every word.

I have absolutely no interest in the upcoming Gaim movie precisely because it's completely non-canon. W and Fourze really did a great job with their films and it sucks to see the franchise backsliding into AUs again.

[Suzu]

Imho, AU isn't bad as long as it tells a cool story. The early Heisei movies were not that exciting, but that doesn't mean I'm not looking forward to the Gaim movie, basically because it will also feature characters that we didn't see much of because the died early, namely Hase and Yuya. I'll just wait and see and then judge the movie for what it is and not for what I would've wanted it to be.

[ZeoRangerV]

I, on the other hand, really like AUs and fully embrace them. It was interesting in Blade's to see how things could have turned out if events went differently, and in the case of Kabuto's it was a chance to make an all round (if not rushed) better product.

That isn't to say I dislike canon movies, but I really like seeing characters set in completely different scenarios.

[XW1n5t0nX]

I like the movies personally, and I don't mind the AU aspect either. Paradise Lost to me is an example of a perfect rider movie and AU story. Heck it handled some of the show's plot points better then the show itself, plus it also made the story a bit more interesting IMO.

[KyoryuGreen]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

I actually feel the biggest problem with most movies is that they tend to take place in an AU, which instantly throws out any connection I feel to a character since they're acting completely differently or they're in an entirely new situation and setting.
I'm liking that, recently, they tend to take place in canon (To an extent) with the actual series. Despite DVD release and subs meaning I get to watch them far, far later than their intended place in the series, it's nice to see that the movies aren't immediately written off.

I kind of have that same problem too, with the exceptions of the Agito's which kind of fits in somewhere there and Kabuto's which is technically a prequel kind of. I hated Blade's (Though I might rewatch it because I don't think I'll hate it as much) and enjoyed Faiz's. I mean out of all the movies I've watched I think the AU ones even if they don't fit in are better than say the OOO Wonderful movie (Which is one of my favorites) it happened but you never see Burakawani form in the series even though if the movie did happen then Eiji should have the medals to go into the form, so I know he uses them later appearances so I'll just say they forgot about them. Though I wish a lot of the movie Exclusive Riders appeared in the series even in different ways than the movie. Though the Decade/All Riders movie and the OOO/Den-O/All Riders movie were both very excellent and took place with the series and didn't introduce anything that wasn't used later. I mean I don't think they kept the Imagin medal or whatever.
I love the movies though especially when you watch them later after it's been a while since you've seen the series. I just rather the movies be either AU movies, or have exclusives that show up in the show later than just in the movie and forgotten about in the show.

[NGW]

Just finished episode 48 of Faiz.

Damn.

First, gonna say I'm still not sure how I feel about the Orphenoc King plot, it was something that had a bit of mention earlier, but it still feels like a bit of a "we need some kind of endgame scenario" pull from the ass, especially since it came up so late in the game.

The far far more interesting thing has been Kiba's fall. It has been handled incredibly well, built up over the course of the entire series, was fairly believable, tragic, and one of the high points for the series I think. And it is accompanied with Kusaka's death. It was absolutely brutal and..I almost felt something, almost. But he was just such an unlikable character and a lot of the dick moves he pulled..you really don't ever get any kind of reason or justification. He didn't want Takumi and Kiba getting closer because he Faiz having allies and getting stronger was an inconvenience for him...umm, why? I may have just glossed over or missed the reasoning behind it, but all we ever really got from him was he has some deeper reason and agenda for why he was doing these things, but aside from wanting revenge and to protect Mari, yeah there really was no good reason to do just about any of the dick things he did. I can understand his distrust for the Orphenocs, even when he was a complete dick to Takumi about it it was at least somewhat understandable, but..I digress.

Getting to the final run here, two episodes remain.

[XW1n5t0nX]

Personally I never really got totally into the fall. It's built up well and I do like how he slowly begins to turn bad and accept what he's been told, but I think going completely ape and basically becoming a complete evil ruler over Yuka's death was a bit mehy and not satisfactory. And it gets pretty...weird and almost questionable in the final episode.

This is actually something that Paradise Lost did better then the show in my opinion. Yuji's turn to the dark side is handled much better.