[Den-O]

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Originally Posted by Guyver Spawn

Most fans don't view GT canon to the manga given he didn't write the show and you have stuff that won't fit like the Super 17 saga. In the manga, it states villains don't keep their bodies (Vegeta is lucky to keep one) since their souls get clean and get reincarnated as something else. So that makes the whole stupid saga in GT impossible to happen. Also recent stuff like Dragon Ball Online which has Akira Toriyama having a big part of the story of the game ignores GT in the timeline.

If they make GT figuarts then I would likely buy Super 17 and Super Yi Xing Long (Omega Shenron) because those two characters have great designs despite being lame villains. I do want to see the original Dragon Ball characters like Kid Goku and Master Roshi get made first before we jump into GT.

Could you maybe possibly stop posting things that are blatantly wrong? I've asked you on numerous occasions to actually check your "facts" but you continue to fail to do so. You're completely misinforming people who may assume you know what you're talking about, when you don't. This is literally the last time I'm going to ask you.

Fans can view it however they want. It doesn't change the fact that the show is 100% officially cannon. And we've seen on NUMEROUS occasions in DBZ that villains kept their bodies after death. Need you be reminded of the Ginyu Force? Even when they were sent to Hell from King Kai's place they retained them.

Here's the most specific reason why you're wrong though. The company that produced the game only got the rights to use material from the manga. The ONLY reason the game doesn't reference show only material from DB, DBZ, & GT, is because they don't legally have the rights to do so.

But more to the point Dragonball Online was a game which created tons of paradoxical situations and timelines that cant be canon with the series. The sheer fact that it's an MMO makes that impossible because millions of unique individuals affect the game and create their own stories. Something like that can't possibly sync up. There's also an absurd amount of time travel that makes it impossible to reconcile with anything as well. You get new characters like Miira and the Lord of Time mucking around with the past and dealing with Future Trunks. There are already 4 timelines in the original series as is, this game creates countless more.

[Guyver Spawn]

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Originally Posted by Den-O

And we've seen on NUMEROUS occasions in DBZ that villains kept their bodies after death. Need you be reminded of the Ginyu Force? Even when they were sent to Hell from King Kai's place they retained them.

That's only in the anime. In the manga, it states the villains don't keep their bodies. People sent to Hell are cleansed and eventually reborn as new life-forms in the living world. That's how Buu was reborn as Uub.

Just read this. This thread on Kanzenshuu that has English translations from the data books like the Daizenshuu translated into English.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/view...php?f=8&t=9633
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/view...hp?f=7&t=11596

I still don't view GT canon to the manga because the creator had nothing to do with the story and it's not adapted from any his own work. Toriyama views it as a side story of the original Dragon Ball manga.If you view it canon then fine by you. To me, the manga will always be canon since it came out first and it's the source material. Same goes with other anime and manga franchises unless stated otherwise.

[Dr Kain]

First off, GT IS fan fiction because it was not written by Toriyama. It doesn't matter if I like it or not, it was made up by Toei.

Secondly, Battle of Gods wipes GT out of existence.

Third, GT completely messes up the entire ending to Z. Goku is so disappointed with his kids that he leaves to train Oobu. However, Oobu shows up one time in GT and then is never seen again. Oh, and Vegeta is completely out of character, or rather, Vegeta is written as if his development in the Buu saga never occurred.

Finally, I made a simple comment about GT. I was not trying to start some big war over its relevance.

[Lbsammills51]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Finally, I made a simple comment about GT. I was not trying to start some big war over its relevance.

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

First off, GT IS fan fiction because it was not written by Toriyama. It doesn't matter if I like it or not, it was made up by Toei.

You're not helping yourself dude.

[Yellow Ranger]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

First off, GT IS fan fiction because it was not written by Toriyama. It doesn't matter if I like it or not, it was made up by Toei.

Secondly, Battle of Gods wipes GT out of existence.

Third, GT completely messes up the entire ending to Z. Goku is so disappointed with his kids that he leaves to train Oobu. However, Oobu shows up one time in GT and then is never seen again. Oh, and Vegeta is completely out of character, or rather, Vegeta is written as if his development in the Buu saga never occurred.

Finally, I made a simple comment about GT. I was not trying to start some big war over its relevance.

BOG has it's own continuity problems in the form of the cast not ageing though.

[Den-O]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

First off, GT IS fan fiction because it was not written by Toriyama. It doesn't matter if I like it or not, it was made up by Toei.

Secondly, Battle of Gods wipes GT out of existence.

Third, GT completely messes up the entire ending to Z. Goku is so disappointed with his kids that he leaves to train Oobu. However, Oobu shows up one time in GT and then is never seen again. Oh, and Vegeta is completely out of character, or rather, Vegeta is written as if his development in the Buu saga never occurred.

Finally, I made a simple comment about GT. I was not trying to start some big war over its relevance.

And yet you have anyway by completely disregarding absolute fact in favor of an opinion that simply is not correct.

So save the childish rants and get over it

[Yellow Ranger]

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Originally Posted by Den-O

And yet you have anyway by completely disregarding absolute fact in favor of an opinion that simply is not correct.

So save the childish rants and get over it

Well Battle of Gods supposedly retcons it if the fandom is to be believed.

[Baltan II]

There is absolutely nothing to be gained in continuing to discuss the canonicity of Dragon Ball here, so I'd recommend at this stage that we all drop it and move on.

[Dr Kain]

So what is up with that new Sailor Moon?

[Den-O]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

So what is up with that new Sailor Moon?

It's an Original Manga Colors edition repaint.