Could Gaim ruin Drive?

Koh · 09-09-2014, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Den-O

Gaim is a great show, but I'm starting to get why everyone's sick of the over hype when discussions like this happen. Just because Gaim is a great show doesn't mean Drive will suck. People saying Gaim is the greatest thing ever, and that nothing as good will ever happen again, are needlessly exaggerating. Yes it's a great show, one of the best, but it doesn't mean the franchise will be worse from here on.

Drive looks excellent in it's own right.

That sorta mentality regarding Gaim is honestly really asinine because while Gaim is a really great show it should not be a creative ceiling for Kamen Rider. Kamen Rider should strive to become greater than Gaim and continue to grow from there.

Electric Turahk · 09-09-2014, 05:44 PM

No, but its fans sure could.

(Not that I'm not a fan, but the more rabid ones.)

ShyGuy · 09-09-2014, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Den-O

Gaim is a great show, but I'm starting to get why everyone's sick of the over hype when discussions like this happen. Just because Gaim is a great show doesn't mean Drive will suck. People saying Gaim is the greatest thing ever, and that nothing as good will ever happen again, are needlessly exaggerating. Yes it's a great show, one of the best, but it doesn't mean the franchise will be worse from here on.

Drive looks excellent in it's own right.

Yes, exactly. By the time Gaim is over, yeah, it's probably going to end up as my personal favorite show in the franchise. That doesn't mean it's going to suddenly retroactively ruin all of the past seasons though, and it certainly isn't going to prevent me from enjoying future shows. I just don't feel the need to compare everything and have no problem enjoying each show for what it is.

Smozz · 09-10-2014, 05:07 AM

They might as well just stop making TV shows all together. We've peaked at Kamen Rider Gaim. I haven't seen any of Kamen Rider Gaim. I'll watch it eventually.

DJ_MonkieRanger · 09-10-2014, 08:43 AM

The thing is, folks, that the reason why these shows end up going this way is because some folks compare apples to oranges (No pun intended. Or is it? HUE HUE HUE).

Wizard is not Decade. Gaim is not Wizard. Drive won't be Gaim. So, there's really nothing per se that compares each series on an equal level. Each series is its own entity. Its own atmosphere. It's the same way with ToQGer. ToQGer will never been Kyoryuger, and that's okay. Because it was never meant to be.

I'm fairly certain that if Toei wanted a series to be similar or pay homage to another series, they'd make it VERY obvious (a la Akibaranger).

Why can't we just enjoy a series for what it is and what it offers? You know, like it (or hate it) based on its own merit and not for what it does or doesn't do in the same grain as the series that came before it?

TokuChris · 09-10-2014, 12:30 PM

I don't think Gaim can "ruin" Drive, but I do think it will be an entirely different tone which may or may not appeal to a lot of fans that Gaim has picked up - let's face it, more people are watching Kamen Rider Gaim now than they were any previous Kamen Rider show (at least on this side of the world). A number of people are treating Kamen Rider Gaim as their first Kamen Rider show - they could become fans of the franchise if there's a strong follow-up to Gaim with Drive.

What worries me personally is the dramatic and drastic change we got from Kyoryuger to ToQGer. I mean, it's not even subtle - ToQGer looks, feels, and practically is written for an incredibly younger audience than Kyoryuger was. I thought the dancing, at first, was dumb in Kyoryuger - I'd do anything to have it back now. as ToQGer's is just one big disappointment after another for me when I do try and watch it.

If we see that same shift with Kamen Rider Drive, then I will be incredibly disappointed. What frightens me more than anything though is the increased intensity on toys - with Decade through Wizard (minus OOO), the collectible aspect was with the henshin device - cards, rings, and a few form changes. It would appear now that the form changes need to be as much as the henshin equipment, so we will see probably a good 10 or so forms out of Drive.

OR MAYBE JUST 7 LIKE GAIM HAD 6.

/pissingoffdeno

Brainchild · 09-10-2014, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kickback

OR MAYBE JUST 7 LIKE GAIM HAD 6.

/pissingoffdeno

Trideron is built on a Honda NSX. The next-generation Acura NSX has a 7-speed dual-clutch transmission. 7.
*Drops mic*

TokuChris · 09-10-2014, 12:56 PM

The stick shift in Trideron is shaped like a 7.

*kaboom*

Powerman293 · 09-10-2014, 12:58 PM

If Drive can't keep people interested enough to follow the franchise, then we'll have to introduce them to the early Heisei Rider shows that are similar to Gaim.

Den-O · 09-10-2014, 01:07 PM

This numbering argument bullshit again? Stop trolling me.

09-09-2014, 05:44 PM	#22
Electric Turahk Tokusatsu Hero Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 5,525	No, but its fans sure could. (Not that I'm not a fan, but the more rabid ones.) __________________

09-09-2014, 07:02 PM	#23
ShyGuy Dr. Salt NEO Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 727	Quote: Originally Posted by Den-O Gaim is a great show, but I'm starting to get why everyone's sick of the over hype when discussions like this happen. Just because Gaim is a great show doesn't mean Drive will suck. People saying Gaim is the greatest thing ever, and that nothing as good will ever happen again, are needlessly exaggerating. Yes it's a great show, one of the best, but it doesn't mean the franchise will be worse from here on. Drive looks excellent in it's own right. Yes, exactly. By the time Gaim is over, yeah, it's probably going to end up as my personal favorite show in the franchise. That doesn't mean it's going to suddenly retroactively ruin all of the past seasons though, and it certainly isn't going to prevent me from enjoying future shows. I just don't feel the need to compare everything and have no problem enjoying each show for what it is. __________________ My Action Figure Photography

09-10-2014, 08:43 AM	#25
DJ_MonkieRanger Funky-Fresh Henshin Beat! Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Faith, nc Posts: 266	The thing is, folks, that the reason why these shows end up going this way is because some folks compare apples to oranges (No pun intended. Or is it? HUE HUE HUE). Wizard is not Decade. Gaim is not Wizard. Drive won't be Gaim. So, there's really nothing per se that compares each series on an equal level. Each series is its own entity. Its own atmosphere. It's the same way with ToQGer. ToQGer will never been Kyoryuger, and that's okay. Because it was never meant to be. I'm fairly certain that if Toei wanted a series to be similar or pay homage to another series, they'd make it VERY obvious (a la Akibaranger). Why can't we just enjoy a series for what it is and what it offers? You know, like it (or hate it) based on its own merit and not for what it does or doesn't do in the same grain as the series that came before it? __________________

09-10-2014, 12:30 PM	#26
TokuChris Webmaster, Administrator @TokuChris Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,697	I don't think Gaim can "ruin" Drive, but I do think it will be an entirely different tone which may or may not appeal to a lot of fans that Gaim has picked up - let's face it, more people are watching Kamen Rider Gaim now than they were any previous Kamen Rider show (at least on this side of the world). A number of people are treating Kamen Rider Gaim as their first Kamen Rider show - they could become fans of the franchise if there's a strong follow-up to Gaim with Drive. What worries me personally is the dramatic and drastic change we got from Kyoryuger to ToQGer. I mean, it's not even subtle - ToQGer looks, feels, and practically is written for an incredibly younger audience than Kyoryuger was. I thought the dancing, at first, was dumb in Kyoryuger - I'd do anything to have it back now. as ToQGer's is just one big disappointment after another for me when I do try and watch it. If we see that same shift with Kamen Rider Drive, then I will be incredibly disappointed. What frightens me more than anything though is the increased intensity on toys - with Decade through Wizard (minus OOO), the collectible aspect was with the henshin device - cards, rings, and a few form changes. It would appear now that the form changes need to be as much as the henshin equipment, so we will see probably a good 10 or so forms out of Drive. OR MAYBE JUST 7 LIKE GAIM HAD 6. /pissingoffdeno __________________ [ "Like" us on Facebook!]\| [@TokuNation on Instagram] \| @TokuNation on Twitter! ]

09-10-2014, 12:48 PM	#27
Brainchild Miss Tokunation Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,630	Quote: Originally Posted by Kickback OR MAYBE JUST 7 LIKE GAIM HAD 6. /pissingoffdeno Trideron is built on a Honda NSX. The next-generation Acura NSX has a 7-speed dual-clutch transmission. 7. Drops mic __________________ I'm also on: Steam\|Flickr\|Tumblr \| 3DS Friend Code: 1805-3583-1511