Rider Of The Year Tournament 2012 Discussion

KamenRiderOOO · 08-11-2012, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Blade Raider

Hey KamenRiderOOO, you might want to redo this poll. You set it so that people can vote for more than one.

I know, I said pick your top 2.

GrimZata · 08-11-2012, 02:05 AM

The problem with TheBee is he never really felt like his own Rider. All the users, except Masato, later got their own Zecters, and Masato used it for what? One fight, maybe? My favorite TheBee user was Yaguruma, but I liked both him and Kageyama better after they got the Kickhopper and Punchhopper Zecters. KaGAmi didn't really change much after getting the Gatack Zecter from how he was when he had the TheBee Zecter, but he also only had for about two episodes. Although I did always see Kageyama as the main user, even though Masato was the TheBee without another Zecter. Point is, I don't think he compares to guys like IXA and Birth who have definite main users, rather than just kinda getting passed around without a definite user. (Haven't seen Faiz beyond the first or second episode, so can't say anything on Delta at the moment.)

Soundwave · 08-11-2012, 04:35 AM

Personally I choose IXA and Birth. Mainly because through the seasons of their respective series, it was more prominent. I would go with IXA over Birth. IXA for the history and plot into the device, Birth for its versatility.

Yes and I agree that TheBee was like a trooper usage weapon instead of a personal rider gear/system.

Delta.. was just really underwhelming in the series.

Barricade64 · 08-11-2012, 11:09 AM

I haven't seen Faiz so I can't really comment on Delta so I left him out of the equation in my vote (yes I know there's a description of his powers in the first post but I didn't see that until I cast my vote

) I'm going with The Bee for Clock Up and Ixa as it's a more powerful system than Birth in my opinion. Birth was created mainly to fight yummies and gather their cell medals. Ixa was designed primarily for combat and can even take on the Checkmate Four as Rising while Birth has trouble handling the Greeed.

KamenRiderOOO · 08-12-2012, 11:24 AM

Proceeding onto the tournament are IXA and Birth!

KamenRiderOOO · 08-12-2012, 11:28 AM

And this battle takes a look at 3 riders with Dragon Motifs!

Kamen Rider Agito (2001)

VS

Kamen Rider Ryuki (2002)

VS

Kamen Rider Ryuga (Kamen Rider Ryuki, 2002)

Our competitors' stats!
Agito-

The Alter Ring is a mysterious belt bestowed upon Shōichi by the Over Lord of Light. It holds the "Seed of Agito" and is the source of his power. As he grows in strength, he would unlock its full powers.
Basic form is Ground Form, with 5 other forms
Ground Form is the first of Agito's numerous forms. This form harnesses the power of the earth, turning Tsugami's entire body into a lethal weapon, with bone-crushing blows and crippling locks. Of all the forms, the golden Ground Form is the most balanced, with power, speed and strength working in harmony to make the most of its capabilities.
At its peak, the crest horns upon his head opens, pushing all of Agito's capabilities to their fullest, emanating beneath his feet, into his legs to execute his Rider Kick, a jump kick of incredible raw power and force; with a force of 30-tons, or with the Machine Tornador, the Rider Brake jumping off the Machine Tornador at full speed, and Dragon Breath, which involves ramming the side of the Machine Tornador into the enemy. Ground Form has also been shown to be able to use a Rider Punch.
Storm Form is the second form of Agito, triggered when Shōichi activated the left switch on the Alter Ring, 'opening' the "Blue Dragon's Eye." The blue "Storm Form" harnesses the power of wind through the left arm, and imparts the form with supernatural agility and reflexes. The most nimble of forms, Storm Agito maneuvers with such swiftness and cunning that its movements parallel foresight.
This form also carries a signature Storm Halberd- a folding, twin-bladed pole arm that serves as Agito‘s primary means of attack while in Storm Form. But, however superior in overall speed and agility, the Storm Form is by far the weakest in comparison to the other forms, in terms of power and strength. His final attack is Halberd Spin, whipping up a powerful gale by twirling the open Storm Halberd at rapid speeds, blowing away everything in the general vicinity, and gaining swing-momentum for a finishing strike, and with the Machine Tornador, the Halberd Brake.
Flame Form is the third of Agito's forms to be revealed, triggered by activating the right switch on the Alter Ring, 'opening' the "Red Dragon's Eye." The searing power of flame flows through the right arm and blesses the red body of the Flame Form with incredible strength. Aside from its apparent superiority in the areas of power and defense, the Flame Form possesses phenomenal heightened senses; his senses have increased to point where an enemy's presence - whether distant, hidden, and/or invisible to the naked eye - can be detected with frightening precision.
This form also has exclusive access to the Flame Saber, using it in his Saber Slash attack which anything he slices with the blade is reduced to ashes, or the stronger Double Saber Slash with an additional Flame Saber to deliver a double saber-stroke attack. With the Machine Tornador, Flame Form is able to use Saber Brake.
In the brief instance when he was able to recover his memory, Shōichi revealed the power to invoke a new level of transformation possessing extraordinary properties of Ground, Storm, and Flame forms: the Trinity Form. This form's capabilities, a combination of all three, harness the strongest qualities of Agito's powers and execute the forms' finishing attacks. In this form, Agito can wield both Storm Form's Storm Halberd and Flame Form's Flame Saber.
Burning Form, known as "the power awakening to infinite possibilities," is born when Shōichi learned to channel his fighting spirit into power. The transition was rough on Shōichi's body, as he was virtually incapacitated during the emergence of this new power. But as they manifest, the nature of the power became clear; and it is one not easily controlled. The Burning Form amplifies and translates Agito's fury into power; thus the greater his rage, the more powerful the Burning Form became, as seen in his Burning Rider Punch attack. His signature weapon, the Shining Caliber, is a dual-bladed weapon capable of two modes: Single Mode, as a dual-blade sword and Twin Mode, as paired blades. Burning Form uses the "Single Mode" exclusively for his "Burning Bomber," cutting down the enemy with lethal blazing strokes.
Most Powerful Form- Shining Form
Shining Form, also known as the "evolution of infinite possibilities," was awakened by the light of the sun. It was an evolution unlike anything ever anticipated by the Overlord, born when Shōichi molts after having mastered his power in Burning Form. Although the power of his fists remain unchanged, all other attributes being pushed to their peak, making Shining Form Agito's greatest form. In Shining Form, Agito wields the Shining Caliber in Twin Mode as paired blades for his high-speed "Shining Clash" attack. His final attack is Shining Rider Kick, concentrating the Agito Power before him to accelerate to supersonic speeds as he attacks with his strongest flying kick, piercing his enemy with extreme force. In Movie War 2010, it was shown that Agito Shining can also perform the Shining Rider Punch.
Weaknesses- Unfortunately, when Shōichi once again loses his memory, the power of the Trinity Form was sealed away. Out of all of Agito's forms, Burning Form is the slowest of them all.

Ryuki:

Can travel through the mirror world
Can summon Dragredder, his contract monster
Wields the Strike, Guard, Strange, Shoot and Sword Vent cards
Most Powerful Form- Ryuki Survive
Survive is Ryuki's ultimate form, assumed by using the power of Survive Rekka. In this form, Ryuki's Rider Visor transforms into a gun-like weapon called the Drag Visor-Zwei , which can assume Drag Blade mode with the sword opening from the visor like a pocket knife with a blade measuring 1.2m in length. Dragredder become Dragranzer when this happens, capable of becoming a Motorcycle.
Weakness- Without his Contract Card, he'll revert to Blank form, a weak form.

Ryuga:

Can travel through the mirror world
Can summon Dragblacker, his contract monster
Wields the Strike, Guard and Sword Vent cards
Weakness- Can be incapacitated if his Advent Deck is taken, can only exist in the real world for a short while before his body starts to disintegrate.

This battle closes Tuesday!

Hint to next battle: Brothers of the King

ShockerCon · 08-12-2012, 11:46 AM

I still don't see how Agito's any more dragon than Kuuga is.
But yeah, I'd have to go with Agito.

Matrixbeast · 08-12-2012, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ShockerCon

I still don't see how Agito's any more dragon than Kuuga is.
But yeah, I'd have to go with Agito.

Kuuga is a stag beetle. Agito is the dragon.

Anyway, it seems like you gave us the cliffnotes version of Ryuki and Ryuga's powers compared the the novel that is Agito's (Especially Ryuga's, whose powers essentially say: "He's there too.")

I know motif and matching theme plays a huge role in these, but unlike some others, the ONLY way Ryuki and Ryuga stand a chance is by popular vote rather than legitimate strength.

ShockerCon · 08-12-2012, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Kuuga is a stag beetle. Agito is the dragon.

I know, I'm just saying that there's not a lot of aspects of Agito's design that hint at him having a dragon motif anymore than Kuuga has. There are those little extra horn thingies for when he does his rider kick and goes Burning/Shining, but that's about it, and even then, those aren't even constants in his design.
And I guess the Machine Tornader looks kinda like a dragon in Slider Mode.

coturos · 08-12-2012, 12:31 PM

i think ryuki would. agitos all melee, ryuki has sword vent, guard vent and then he has his strike vent which is a biggun pretty much, not to mention.... giant. dragon

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08-11-2012, 01:43 AM	#931
KamenRiderOOO Resident Customizer The Guy with the Voices @TrueKROOO Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Visalia, CA Posts: 11,089	Quote: Originally Posted by Blade Raider Hey KamenRiderOOO, you might want to redo this poll. You set it so that people can vote for more than one. I know, I said pick your top 2. __________________ My signature disappeared. Help.

08-11-2012, 04:35 AM	#933
Soundwave Decepticon Communications Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Singapore Posts: 171	Personally I choose IXA and Birth. Mainly because through the seasons of their respective series, it was more prominent. I would go with IXA over Birth. IXA for the history and plot into the device, Birth for its versatility. Yes and I agree that TheBee was like a trooper usage weapon instead of a personal rider gear/system. Delta.. was just really underwhelming in the series. __________________ My Flickr Photostream

08-11-2012, 11:09 AM	#934
Barricade64 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 1,156	I haven't seen Faiz so I can't really comment on Delta so I left him out of the equation in my vote (yes I know there's a description of his powers in the first post but I didn't see that until I cast my vote ) I'm going with The Bee for Clock Up and Ixa as it's a more powerful system than Birth in my opinion. Birth was created mainly to fight yummies and gather their cell medals. Ixa was designed primarily for combat and can even take on the Checkmate Four as Rising while Birth has trouble handling the Greeed. __________________ My B/S/T My TFW Feedback

08-12-2012, 11:24 AM	#935
KamenRiderOOO Resident Customizer The Guy with the Voices @TrueKROOO Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Visalia, CA Posts: 11,089	Proceeding onto the tournament are IXA and Birth! __________________ My signature disappeared. Help.

08-12-2012, 11:28 AM	#936
KamenRiderOOO Resident Customizer The Guy with the Voices @TrueKROOO Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Visalia, CA Posts: 11,089	And this battle takes a look at 3 riders with Dragon Motifs! Kamen Rider Agito (2001) VS Kamen Rider Ryuki (2002) VS Kamen Rider Ryuga (Kamen Rider Ryuki, 2002) Our competitors' stats! Agito- The Alter Ring is a mysterious belt bestowed upon Shōichi by the Over Lord of Light. It holds the "Seed of Agito" and is the source of his power. As he grows in strength, he would unlock its full powers. Basic form is Ground Form, with 5 other forms Ground Form is the first of Agito's numerous forms. This form harnesses the power of the earth, turning Tsugami's entire body into a lethal weapon, with bone-crushing blows and crippling locks. Of all the forms, the golden Ground Form is the most balanced, with power, speed and strength working in harmony to make the most of its capabilities. At its peak, the crest horns upon his head opens, pushing all of Agito's capabilities to their fullest, emanating beneath his feet, into his legs to execute his Rider Kick, a jump kick of incredible raw power and force; with a force of 30-tons, or with the Machine Tornador, the Rider Brake jumping off the Machine Tornador at full speed, and Dragon Breath, which involves ramming the side of the Machine Tornador into the enemy. Ground Form has also been shown to be able to use a Rider Punch. Storm Form is the second form of Agito, triggered when Shōichi activated the left switch on the Alter Ring, 'opening' the "Blue Dragon's Eye." The blue "Storm Form" harnesses the power of wind through the left arm, and imparts the form with supernatural agility and reflexes. The most nimble of forms, Storm Agito maneuvers with such swiftness and cunning that its movements parallel foresight. This form also carries a signature Storm Halberd- a folding, twin-bladed pole arm that serves as Agito‘s primary means of attack while in Storm Form. But, however superior in overall speed and agility, the Storm Form is by far the weakest in comparison to the other forms, in terms of power and strength. His final attack is Halberd Spin, whipping up a powerful gale by twirling the open Storm Halberd at rapid speeds, blowing away everything in the general vicinity, and gaining swing-momentum for a finishing strike, and with the Machine Tornador, the Halberd Brake. Flame Form is the third of Agito's forms to be revealed, triggered by activating the right switch on the Alter Ring, 'opening' the "Red Dragon's Eye." The searing power of flame flows through the right arm and blesses the red body of the Flame Form with incredible strength. Aside from its apparent superiority in the areas of power and defense, the Flame Form possesses phenomenal heightened senses; his senses have increased to point where an enemy's presence - whether distant, hidden, and/or invisible to the naked eye - can be detected with frightening precision. This form also has exclusive access to the Flame Saber, using it in his Saber Slash attack which anything he slices with the blade is reduced to ashes, or the stronger Double Saber Slash with an additional Flame Saber to deliver a double saber-stroke attack. With the Machine Tornador, Flame Form is able to use Saber Brake. In the brief instance when he was able to recover his memory, Shōichi revealed the power to invoke a new level of transformation possessing extraordinary properties of Ground, Storm, and Flame forms: the Trinity Form. This form's capabilities, a combination of all three, harness the strongest qualities of Agito's powers and execute the forms' finishing attacks. In this form, Agito can wield both Storm Form's Storm Halberd and Flame Form's Flame Saber. Burning Form, known as "the power awakening to infinite possibilities," is born when Shōichi learned to channel his fighting spirit into power. The transition was rough on Shōichi's body, as he was virtually incapacitated during the emergence of this new power. But as they manifest, the nature of the power became clear; and it is one not easily controlled. The Burning Form amplifies and translates Agito's fury into power; thus the greater his rage, the more powerful the Burning Form became, as seen in his Burning Rider Punch attack. His signature weapon, the Shining Caliber, is a dual-bladed weapon capable of two modes: Single Mode, as a dual-blade sword and Twin Mode, as paired blades. Burning Form uses the "Single Mode" exclusively for his "Burning Bomber," cutting down the enemy with lethal blazing strokes. Most Powerful Form- Shining Form Shining Form, also known as the "evolution of infinite possibilities," was awakened by the light of the sun. It was an evolution unlike anything ever anticipated by the Overlord, born when Shōichi molts after having mastered his power in Burning Form. Although the power of his fists remain unchanged, all other attributes being pushed to their peak, making Shining Form Agito's greatest form. In Shining Form, Agito wields the Shining Caliber in Twin Mode as paired blades for his high-speed "Shining Clash" attack. His final attack is Shining Rider Kick, concentrating the Agito Power before him to accelerate to supersonic speeds as he attacks with his strongest flying kick, piercing his enemy with extreme force. In Movie War 2010, it was shown that Agito Shining can also perform the Shining Rider Punch. Weaknesses- Unfortunately, when Shōichi once again loses his memory, the power of the Trinity Form was sealed away. Out of all of Agito's forms, Burning Form is the slowest of them all. Ryuki: Can travel through the mirror world Can summon Dragredder, his contract monster Wields the Strike, Guard, Strange, Shoot and Sword Vent cards Most Powerful Form- Ryuki Survive Survive is Ryuki's ultimate form, assumed by using the power of Survive Rekka. In this form, Ryuki's Rider Visor transforms into a gun-like weapon called the Drag Visor-Zwei , which can assume Drag Blade mode with the sword opening from the visor like a pocket knife with a blade measuring 1.2m in length. Dragredder become Dragranzer when this happens, capable of becoming a Motorcycle. Weakness- Without his Contract Card, he'll revert to Blank form, a weak form. Ryuga: Can travel through the mirror world Can summon Dragblacker, his contract monster Wields the Strike, Guard and Sword Vent cards Weakness- Can be incapacitated if his Advent Deck is taken, can only exist in the real world for a short while before his body starts to disintegrate. This battle closes Tuesday! Hint to next battle: Brothers of the King __________________ My signature disappeared. Help.