The "What anime are you watching" thread

2ndSndWve · 11-14-2014, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MidoGreen

That basically meant no warning shots IIRC.

I guess, but there are at least three or four lines that I've come across so far that are hilariously self-contradictory/redundant.

algo448 · 11-16-2014, 02:22 PM

Macross 7: That one Macross sequel that leaves the real robot aspect for a while and focuses on a music band fighting space vampires with the power of rock and roll.
Yeah... it's odd.

To be fair while that is the usual synopsis, the show has more than that, the UN is the main fighting force, and the "space vampires" are simply an alien race that for the biggest part also fights using Valkyries, so the usual humans vs aliens story is there, and Fire Bomber (the music band) ultimately ends up as a neutral force in the conflict, a pacifist group that doesn't shoot at either side but simply sings in an attempt to stop the battles.

And in that sense, it's quite promising, for once we have a genuinely pacifist protagonist in a mech show, Basara does not shoot, and learning that his valkyrie is loaded with live rounds was enough to enrage him, likewise the setup is interesting with the clash of interest between the regular military, Fire Bomber and the civilians themselves.

But Macross 7 is incredibly formulaic, every episode more or elss tarts with the band practicing a song, going to a concert, the Protodevlin attacking and Basara flying out in his plane to sing. While there are enough developments to keep the plot moving the format itself rarely changes. And the characters don't change much either with the exception of Gamlin and arguably Mylene.

Macross 7 is what I'd call an "acquired taste", music has always been essential to the franchise, and pacifism is a recurring trope in mecha shows, so in this case the njoyment comes mostly from how fond are you of the ideas over the execution, because in the end you stick with the show because of the rpemise and not the developments.

Also, every single one of Basara's songs are huge ear worms, it's an amazing soundtrack.

Shingetsutan Tsukihime: Hey, it's that Tsukihime adaptation that it's suppsoedly so bad that most people say it never existed.
Is it that bad? Not really.
Is it good? Not by a long stretch, but the shortocmings come from different aspects that what I had been told.

Adpatations are interesting, in japan the y tend to be more or less direct translataions of the original source, the same story told in a diffent medium, while in the western world we are more used to adaptations that drastically altere events or are mostly based on general ideas rather than an specific narrative, so once you add to that the fact that Tsukihime was originally a visual novel with 5 different routes you get an interestign result.

Shingetsutan is not a direct adaptation of Arcueid's route, as is common with VN adaptations it takes elements from all the stories, but in something that surprised me, it also changed a lot and added original elements, the characters develope differently and have new personalities and motivations, some of their roles like in the case of Nrvnqsr or Satsuki are drastically changed, and in all honesty, the way they set the events and organize the content is a pretty brillaint way to tell the story of Tsukihime, this is a different take on the story, their take, but it's organized on a great way.

The problem is not a matter of the order or the changes, but rather the way the scenes are prioritized, filler can be long, silences are extended and as a result the more improtant parts get very little screen time, specially confrontations, and that's mostly due to the animation.
This show has some of the worst animation I've seen in my life, movement is incredibly limited, and it ues every single trick in the book to avoid showing it, whether it is focusing on distant objects while characters talk, long shots, still images, this show does not want to move, and asu such the only scenes that are shown somewhat consitently are conversations, anything that involves action is downright terrible and almost impossible to recognize.

So it's the kind of show that can do good setup, but it's terrible at concluding it, and everything just screams low budget, giving the feeling that even the studio had low expectations on it and tried to paly it safe.

Shingetsutan is a bad show, but it's not aobut the way they adapted the story but rather due to the production values, which is a shame, since in all hoensty, I liked the way they tried to tell the story.

Galvantula · 11-16-2014, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by algo448

Macross 7: .

Shingetsutan Tsukihime: Hey, it's that Tsukihime adaptation that it's suppsoedly so bad that most people say it never existed.
Is it that bad? Not really.
Is it good? Not by a long stretch, but the shortocmings come from different aspects that what I had been told.

Adpatations are interesting, in japan the y tend to be more or less direct translataions of the original source, the same story told in a diffent medium, while in the western world we are more used to adaptations that drastically altere events or are mostly based on general ideas rather than an specific narrative, so once you add to that the fact that Tsukihime was originally a visual novel with 5 different routes you get an interestign result.

Shingetsutan is not a direct adaptation of Arcueid's route, as is common with VN adaptations it takes elements from all the stories, but in something that surprised me, it also changed a lot and added original elements, the characters develope differently and have new personalities and motivations, some of their roles like in the case of Nrvnqsr or Satsuki are drastically changed, and in all honesty, the way they set the events and organize the content is a pretty brillaint way to tell the story of Tsukihime, this is a different take on the story, their take, but it's organized on a great way.

The problem is not a matter of the order or the changes, but rather the way the scenes are prioritized, filler can be long, silences are extended and as a result the more improtant parts get very little screen time, specially confrontations, and that's mostly due to the animation.
This show has some of the worst animation I've seen in my life, movement is incredibly limited, and it ues every single trick in the book to avoid showing it, whether it is focusing on distant objects while characters talk, long shots, still images, this show does not want to move, and asu such the only scenes that are shown somewhat consitently are conversations, anything that involves action is downright terrible and almost impossible to recognize.

So it's the kind of show that can do good setup, but it's terrible at concluding it, and everything just screams low budget, giving the feeling that even the studio had low expectations on it and tried to paly it safe.

Shingetsutan is a bad show, but it's not aobut the way they adapted the story but rather due to the production values, which is a shame, since in all hoensty, I liked the way they tried to tell the story.

It still boggles my mind how popular Tsukihime is and yet its anime adaptation is so disliked saying it doesn't exist is a meme. While it is a rather poor way to do the story it overall could have been worse.

BTW as someone who has watched the first Fate Stay anime who can tell me why it's disliked as well? I'm guessing it could be the liberties taken with the story or how ham fisted the Rin/Sakura plot was resolved during Caster's last battle, but if anyone can narrow it down for me I would be grateful seeing as the Nasuverse is BIG on lore.

algo448 · 11-16-2014, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Galvantula

It still boggles my mind how popular Tsukihime is and yet its anime adaptation is so disliked saying it doesn't exist is a meme. While it is a rather poor way to do the story it overall could have been worse.

BTW as someone who has watched the first Fate Stay anime who can tell me why it's disliked as well? I'm guessing it could be the liberties taken with the story or how ham fisted the Rin/Sakura plot was resolved during Caster's last battle, but if anyone can narrow it down for me I would be grateful seeing as the Nasuverse is BIG on lore.

Yeah, it's an overreaction, the anime had flaws, but it wasn't that bad.

I dunno, personally I always felt it had a slow pace in the beginning but as a whole it was enjoyable, though it does seem that most of the dislike nowadays comes from those that experienced Zero first.

XW1n5t0nX · 11-17-2014, 12:41 AM

Mobile Suit Gundam Trilogy
Not all that bad. The pacing was a weird and either The Origin re-arranged scenes or the movies did because somethings happened sooner then I remembered. Also the animation seemed really shaky at times. I will say though that I do not like how crazy it got with the newtype stuff by the end though. Seriously, less psychicy stuff and more giant robots beating the hell out of each other. Other then those things they weren't half bad films.

Char's Counter Attack
This movie was fucking awesome. Seriously this was amazing. I wish it would have explained what happened to Fraw, Sayla, Hayato, Kai, and the kids but I won't get too whiny about that. The animation was great and the battles were simply beautiful. As for the new characters, they weren't all that bad. Quess though...yeah, she got annoying, a lot. But I can tolerate her a bit more than I can Releena. Overall though I freaking loved this movie. I pretty much like all of the Gundam shows, OVAs, and movies I've seen so far, but the list of ones I absolutely love has only been a party of two. Char's Counter Attack has become the third entry on the "Entries I Love" list.

Dr Kain · 11-17-2014, 01:03 AM

The Origin?

I thought CCA was freaking awful though. It was long, boring, and did not even have a real ending.

BTW, if you want to know what happened to Fraw, the kids, and gang, you need to watch Zeta.

XW1n5t0nX · 11-17-2014, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

The Origin?

I thought CCA was freaking awful though. It was long, boring, and did not even have a real ending.

BTW, if you want to know what happened to Fraw, the kids, and gang, you need to watch Zeta.

The Origin manga.

Ehhh I'll give you that the ending is practically nonexistent. I didn't really find it boring though.

Ahhhh, I suppose I'll put that on my to watch list.

ZeoRangerV · 11-17-2014, 07:10 AM

I think Avengers Disk Wars' "Crossbones was Hawkeye all along" was the most obvious reveal I've come across in a long while.

It was still awesome though.

KR Blade King Form · 11-17-2014, 08:27 AM

I'm rewatching the Gundam 00 Movie for probably the 15th or so time I've watched it since I first bought it at the FYE in the Orange Park mall

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Dr Kain · 11-17-2014, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by XW1n5t0nX

The Origin manga.

Ehhh I'll give you that the ending is practically nonexistent. I didn't really find it boring though.

Ahhhh, I suppose I'll put that on my to watch list.

Just make sure to watch the Zeta series and not the horrible movie versions that also changed the ending to the show.

11-14-2014, 10:23 PM	#5461
2ndSndWve Forever a sniper Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Maine Posts: 3,804	Quote: Originally Posted by MidoGreen That basically meant no warning shots IIRC. I guess, but there are at least three or four lines that I've come across so far that are hilariously self-contradictory/redundant. __________________ I got stuff for sale!

11-16-2014, 02:22 PM	#5462
algo448 Amateur Procrastinator Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Colombia Posts: 7,491	Macross 7: That one Macross sequel that leaves the real robot aspect for a while and focuses on a music band fighting space vampires with the power of rock and roll. Yeah... it's odd. To be fair while that is the usual synopsis, the show has more than that, the UN is the main fighting force, and the "space vampires" are simply an alien race that for the biggest part also fights using Valkyries, so the usual humans vs aliens story is there, and Fire Bomber (the music band) ultimately ends up as a neutral force in the conflict, a pacifist group that doesn't shoot at either side but simply sings in an attempt to stop the battles. And in that sense, it's quite promising, for once we have a genuinely pacifist protagonist in a mech show, Basara does not shoot, and learning that his valkyrie is loaded with live rounds was enough to enrage him, likewise the setup is interesting with the clash of interest between the regular military, Fire Bomber and the civilians themselves. But Macross 7 is incredibly formulaic, every episode more or elss tarts with the band practicing a song, going to a concert, the Protodevlin attacking and Basara flying out in his plane to sing. While there are enough developments to keep the plot moving the format itself rarely changes. And the characters don't change much either with the exception of Gamlin and arguably Mylene. Macross 7 is what I'd call an "acquired taste", music has always been essential to the franchise, and pacifism is a recurring trope in mecha shows, so in this case the njoyment comes mostly from how fond are you of the ideas over the execution, because in the end you stick with the show because of the rpemise and not the developments. Also, every single one of Basara's songs are huge ear worms, it's an amazing soundtrack. Shingetsutan Tsukihime: Hey, it's that Tsukihime adaptation that it's suppsoedly so bad that most people say it never existed. Is it that bad? Not really. Is it good? Not by a long stretch, but the shortocmings come from different aspects that what I had been told. Adpatations are interesting, in japan the y tend to be more or less direct translataions of the original source, the same story told in a diffent medium, while in the western world we are more used to adaptations that drastically altere events or are mostly based on general ideas rather than an specific narrative, so once you add to that the fact that Tsukihime was originally a visual novel with 5 different routes you get an interestign result. Shingetsutan is not a direct adaptation of Arcueid's route, as is common with VN adaptations it takes elements from all the stories, but in something that surprised me, it also changed a lot and added original elements, the characters develope differently and have new personalities and motivations, some of their roles like in the case of Nrvnqsr or Satsuki are drastically changed, and in all honesty, the way they set the events and organize the content is a pretty brillaint way to tell the story of Tsukihime, this is a different take on the story, their take, but it's organized on a great way. The problem is not a matter of the order or the changes, but rather the way the scenes are prioritized, filler can be long, silences are extended and as a result the more improtant parts get very little screen time, specially confrontations, and that's mostly due to the animation. This show has some of the worst animation I've seen in my life, movement is incredibly limited, and it ues every single trick in the book to avoid showing it, whether it is focusing on distant objects while characters talk, long shots, still images, this show does not want to move, and asu such the only scenes that are shown somewhat consitently are conversations, anything that involves action is downright terrible and almost impossible to recognize. So it's the kind of show that can do good setup, but it's terrible at concluding it, and everything just screams low budget, giving the feeling that even the studio had low expectations on it and tried to paly it safe. Shingetsutan is a bad show, but it's not aobut the way they adapted the story but rather due to the production values, which is a shame, since in all hoensty, I liked the way they tried to tell the story. __________________ *DA // Tumblr // Youtube*

11-16-2014, 05:21 PM	#5463
Galvantula Neon Blade Outlaw Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Californa Posts: 2,725	Quote: Originally Posted by algo448 Macross 7: . Shingetsutan Tsukihime: Hey, it's that Tsukihime adaptation that it's suppsoedly so bad that most people say it never existed. Is it that bad? Not really. Is it good? Not by a long stretch, but the shortocmings come from different aspects that what I had been told. Adpatations are interesting, in japan the y tend to be more or less direct translataions of the original source, the same story told in a diffent medium, while in the western world we are more used to adaptations that drastically altere events or are mostly based on general ideas rather than an specific narrative, so once you add to that the fact that Tsukihime was originally a visual novel with 5 different routes you get an interestign result. Shingetsutan is not a direct adaptation of Arcueid's route, as is common with VN adaptations it takes elements from all the stories, but in something that surprised me, it also changed a lot and added original elements, the characters develope differently and have new personalities and motivations, some of their roles like in the case of Nrvnqsr or Satsuki are drastically changed, and in all honesty, the way they set the events and organize the content is a pretty brillaint way to tell the story of Tsukihime, this is a different take on the story, their take, but it's organized on a great way. The problem is not a matter of the order or the changes, but rather the way the scenes are prioritized, filler can be long, silences are extended and as a result the more improtant parts get very little screen time, specially confrontations, and that's mostly due to the animation. This show has some of the worst animation I've seen in my life, movement is incredibly limited, and it ues every single trick in the book to avoid showing it, whether it is focusing on distant objects while characters talk, long shots, still images, this show does not want to move, and asu such the only scenes that are shown somewhat consitently are conversations, anything that involves action is downright terrible and almost impossible to recognize. So it's the kind of show that can do good setup, but it's terrible at concluding it, and everything just screams low budget, giving the feeling that even the studio had low expectations on it and tried to paly it safe. Shingetsutan is a bad show, but it's not aobut the way they adapted the story but rather due to the production values, which is a shame, since in all hoensty, I liked the way they tried to tell the story. It still boggles my mind how popular Tsukihime is and yet its anime adaptation is so disliked saying it doesn't exist is a meme. While it is a rather poor way to do the story it overall could have been worse. BTW as someone who has watched the first Fate Stay anime who can tell me why it's disliked as well? I'm guessing it could be the liberties taken with the story or how ham fisted the Rin/Sakura plot was resolved during Caster's last battle, but if anyone can narrow it down for me I would be grateful seeing as the Nasuverse is BIG on lore. __________________ 3DS F.Code: 2363 6720 7569 Quote: Originally Posted by Mmicb0b inb4 his final form is just MetalCluster Hopper wearing all the belts

11-16-2014, 06:41 PM	#5464
algo448 Amateur Procrastinator Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Colombia Posts: 7,491	Quote: Originally Posted by Galvantula It still boggles my mind how popular Tsukihime is and yet its anime adaptation is so disliked saying it doesn't exist is a meme. While it is a rather poor way to do the story it overall could have been worse. BTW as someone who has watched the first Fate Stay anime who can tell me why it's disliked as well? I'm guessing it could be the liberties taken with the story or how ham fisted the Rin/Sakura plot was resolved during Caster's last battle, but if anyone can narrow it down for me I would be grateful seeing as the Nasuverse is BIG on lore. Yeah, it's an overreaction, the anime had flaws, but it wasn't that bad. I dunno, personally I always felt it had a slow pace in the beginning but as a whole it was enjoyable, though it does seem that most of the dislike nowadays comes from those that experienced Zero first. __________________ *DA // Tumblr // Youtube*

11-17-2014, 12:41 AM	#5465
XW1n5t0nX 「蝙蝠騎士の魔界<ブラム>」 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The Catacombs of Ohio Posts: 12,794	*Mobile Suit Gundam Trilogy* Not all that bad. The pacing was a weird and either The Origin re-arranged scenes or the movies did because somethings happened sooner then I remembered. Also the animation seemed really shaky at times. I will say though that I do not like how crazy it got with the newtype stuff by the end though. Seriously, less psychicy stuff and more giant robots beating the hell out of each other. Other then those things they weren't half bad films. *Char's Counter Attack* This movie was fucking awesome. Seriously this was amazing. I wish it would have explained what happened to Fraw, Sayla, Hayato, Kai, and the kids but I won't get too whiny about that. The animation was great and the battles were simply beautiful. As for the new characters, they weren't all that bad. Quess though...yeah, she got annoying, a lot. But I can tolerate her a bit more than I can Releena. Overall though I freaking loved this movie. I pretty much like all of the Gundam shows, OVAs, and movies I've seen so far, but the list of ones I absolutely love has only been a party of two. Char's Counter Attack has become the third entry on the "Entries I Love" list. __________________