[coturos]

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Originally Posted by Den-O

Honestly I've always thought W is good but not this overly incredible series that everyone makes it out to be. It has great episodes and great characters but it's never truly blown me away like most people. And I'm one of the rare people who really enjoys the final episode and how the series ends.

i like the final episode too, other than double himself there is nothing redeamable about the series

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by Den-O

Honestly I've always thought W is good but not this overly incredible series that everyone makes it out to be. It has great episodes and great characters but it's never truly blown me away like most people. And I'm one of the rare people who really enjoys the final episode and how the series ends.

It's really from multiple different views as to why Double sparked the praise it got. Be it from the themes of predestination vs. free will, to the detective setting (Which was vastly underutilized, IMO), the solid and well told story (It came directly after Decade, mind you), or possibly just the character chemistry, mixing comedy and drama in a very well manner (Unlike Fourze, which shoehorned it's comedy in so much any drama in a scene is immediately removed (Sans 3 cases)).
You must also remember that, for a great many, Double was their 2nd Kamen Rider series.

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Originally Posted by coturos

i like the final episode too, other than double himself there is nothing redeamable about the series

I'd ask why you feel this way, but I really don't care. Even in my Gokai and Decade hate, I can list off tons of things that they did right.
If you feel that there is nothing redeemable about the series past the titular character, then whatever.

[Switchblade]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Well, I just finished Kuuga and I feel... underwhelmed. I mean, the last episode itself was great because it was a nice thought out epilogue, but what the hell happened in 47 and 48? Fourty-seven starts out who knows how long after the ending of 46, which really throws you off, but the final battle was so lackluster. "Let's have the final villlain, who has absolutely no development at all in the series, have a punching fight with Yusuke in the snow and then end it with them falling over. No choreography, no in suit action, not even a rider kick or an explosion. Oh, and in the mean time, the Rose Lady, who has been in the series since the beginning, gets killed by a bullet, making her the most useless character in the entire series. Yes, this is the best idea we can come up with." WHAT THE FLYING ****?! Talk about a way to leave the final episode of a great series lacking. Except for those two episodes, the show was very great. I enjoyed the designs, the Grongi were well done, I liked the whole game concept, but damn, you would think Japan would barely have anyone left alive to live there after this. The characters were great, interesting, and funny. They were well thought out and really added to the show and to Yusuke's character. However, since it is in similar tone, I do have to say I think Agito is the better of the two series, because I just think the development of Shuichi tramples the development of Yusuke by miles. Yusuke was pretty much the same guy through the entire series, but Shuichi's amnesia really helped his character stand out. Not to mention Gills helped to add a bit of variety to the way the battles were played out over the course of the series. With just Kuuga, sometimes, the battles got a little boring because he would use the same attacks over. It was also weird seeing him get his last form in the second to last story arc, and then he didn't even actually doing anything with it. Once again, I enjoyed the series a lot, I can see why it made Kamen Rider popular again, but the little things really drag it down a notch. I give it a 3.5/5 stars.

Oh yeah, and I watched Episode 46.5, thinking that would bridge the gap of what happened inbetween 46 and 47. NOPE!! It is just another clip show.

Yeah, the Kuuga finale is kind of controversial. I love the last fight, even if it isn't a crazy, balls-to-the-wall special effects fest. I actually like it more, really, because it all boils down to two dudes slugging the hell out of each other. It's brutal, it's dirty, and it's glorious. I don't mind Ra-Baruba-De's death, either. She wasn't a fighter - she was just a referee.

The lack of Yusuke and N-Daguva-Zeba's first fight is a legit complaint, though. I don't think anybody saw episode 47 and didn't think "wait, did I miss an episode?" I get that it was probably some kind of budget constraint issue, but it still sucked. I don't think it takes away from Kuuga's overall awesomeness, though.

[coturos]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

I'd ask why you feel this way, but I really don't care. Even in my Gokai and Decade hate, I can list off tons of things that they did right.
If you feel that there is nothing redeemable about the series past the titular character, then whatever.

well i like alot of things, the designs are awesome and the guy with the backscratcher are hilarious, its just like... can that alone carry a series. the detective work and solving the mystery was like trying to find waldo on a page were all u could see was waldos face. terui is annoying and he found his perfect wife, the most annoying girl in history. plus since its SO dependent on the 2 part story thing its like u could put all the two parters in a pile mix them up and put them in any order and there wouldnt be a story problem, the only thing that changes is the sonozaki family and by way, WORST. VILLIANS. EVER.

[Switchblade]

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Originally Posted by coturos

the only thing that changes is the sonozaki family and by way, WORST. VILLIANS. EVER.

You've clearly never seen the Archbishop Wing episodes of V3.

Or Doctor Maki. Yeah, I went there.

[coturos]

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Originally Posted by Switchblade

You've clearly never seen the Archbishop Wing episodes of V3.

Or Doctor Maki. Yeah, I went there.

no i have not.



huuuuuuhhhhhhh!!!!! how dare u use the great name of maki in vain!

[Switchblade]

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Originally Posted by coturos

huuuuuuhhhhhhh!!!!! how dare u use the great name of maki in vain!

Like I've said before, if you can defeat the final boss by taking away his little dolly, he is a shit villain.

[Den-O]

Still love Maki. One of the most evil and badass rider villains ever. That being said I also was bored to tears by the Sonozaki family. Other than Kirihiko I could take or leave them.

[coturos]

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Originally Posted by Den-O

Still love Maki. One of the most evil and badass rider villains ever. That being said I also was bored to tears by the Sonozaki family. Other than Kirihiko I could take or leave them.

thank u!

im just gonna say it, if kai from den-o beats u in villianry, give up

[Den-O]

Hell, even I'll admit that Kai was awful but still somewhat more interesting than the Sonozakis.