[Kiwami]

Accurate by my standards, which obviously don't compare to yours. I'm not trying to set up facts here. Sorry I haven’t expressed that clearly.

[Electric Turahk]

Does it look like Vader?

Yeah.

Look better than the 6" Black Series?

Yeah.

Plenty good enough for me.

[MetroPoliceGray]

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Originally Posted by Kiwami

Wow, what? Any examples for that?

I think the figure is very accurate, I even got my Kotobukiya-statue down which I think has a very sculpt and I can't spy any difference. Talking from pictures of course, you would need to have the figure in hand to really compare them.

I think the sculpt is great and I can't see any major difference, especially not in comparison with how different the Double SHF looks to the actual suit.

Don't forget that there's also no "define" version of the helmet and in some instances the suit, it was constantly worked on during the original trilogy and does look different from time to time.

Yeah, that's a common practice in tv/movies now. There's always mods being done to costumes. Look at PR. There's the in suit helmet, helmetless shot helmet, the prop/convention show helmet,ect... There's rarely a perfect replica of anything. All based on perspective & memory.

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Originally Posted by Thessair

There are definitive versions of the suit. Each film has a very specific suit and configuration of the components on that suit. There are ANH,ESB, RotJ, and RotS helmets, should armor, shin guards, belt boxes, chestboxes. Each film has a unique Vader suit and fairly maintained continuity within a particular film. The obvious exceptions being modifications made for both the unmasked Vader scenes in Empire and Jedi.

I'm only going with these two examples because there aren't enough clear shots with proper lighting to dissect the helmet right now and the shoulder armor, while also inaccurate, isn't as blatantly obvious.

Here are two shots of the SHF:




Belt Boxes:



The closest to the SHF here are the ESB/RotJ boxes. That makes sense since this is supposed to be the RotJ Vader, as evidenced by the bonus display base and the missing hand. However, not one single button is placed properly here. They don't match up at all. It's pretty self explanatory.

Chestbox:



The chestbox, on the other hand, is some sort of bizarre Frankenstein. The large rocker switches at the bottom are in the configuration of ESB/RotJ, but they are solid colors, like ANH/RotS. They are lacking the proper black outer coloring of the ESB/RotJ pieces and the silver sliders in between. Additionally, the upper and lower colored panels in the upper right are blue and red, per ESB/RotJ, but are also missing the sliders. The Aurabesh text is missing for a proper ESB/RotJ. The rod detailing is also incorrect for any version of the unit.

Cape Chain:



The cape chain is probably the most inaccurate piece, not matching up to any version of the character.



My point was that people can like a figure but that it doesn't matter one whit when it comes to judging its accuracy.

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I also forgot to mention that the Vader figure is being reported as ~155mm in height. Converted, that comes out to about 6'1" or so. David Prowse alone was 6'5", not counting the additional height from the costume pieces.

Wow. Ok, that's a bit much.

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Originally Posted by Kiwami

Thanks for the read, but that's just nit-picks for me, nothing I would ever notice or care about. If that's all that is inaccurate with the figure I don't care about it

And I do remember hearing something about them working on the details of the suit all the time and it changed during filming, I was wrong then.

Uh-huh.

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Originally Posted by Electric Turahk

Does it look like Vader?

Yeah.

Look better than the 6" Black Series?

Yeah.

Plenty good enough for me.

.......
Yeah.

[Dr Kain]

Sorry dude, but it looks exactly like Vader. I don't see how those button thingies you posted are any different than what the Figuart has. In fact, I never even knew he had different button thingies. Probably because it is something that is hardly noticeable and not worth caring about to begin with. It changes nothing in who the character is and what he looks like.

[Den-O]

I believe it's worth caring about for sure. In much the same way it kills me that the W, Agito, etc other rider SHFs are so inaccurate but people give them a pass and say "meh good enough stop nitpicking". I totally respect that someone has legit complaints about this thing being a Vader-stein of design elements and variations of the actual costume.

Would i care about those things? Not so much. For me the costume has some fluidity to it because of the previously stated changes to it over the course of the saga. But I'm not going to argue with someone who clearly recognizes it's inaccuracies as though they're incorrect. Thessair is of course 100% correct that the toy is some weirdly amalgamated inaccuracy. If the inaccuracies don't bother you that's fine, they don't have to. But to argue that they don't exist is just stupid.

At the very least we should all be able to agree it's the nicest Vader figure out there and is leaps and bounds better than the eyesore that is the 6" Black Series Vader. That fucking monstrosity towers over other figures in that line, it's not even appropriately tall, just stupidly.

[SideswipePrime]

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Originally Posted by Kiwami

If Vader with his bonus-stage is any indication, I think they might go straight to ROTJ-Luke and I would love to see that happen. I'm curious to see the facesculpt though, I only know Tamashii for sculpted helmets, not faces.

I sure hope so, Jedi Luke is my favorite Luke.

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Originally Posted by Talisman

it's the best version of Luke there is. Stop complaining.

Look, I like Blue lightsabers too...but Jedi Luke is better.

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Originally Posted by Thessair

There are definitive versions of the suit. Each film has a very specific suit and configuration of the components on that suit. There are ANH,ESB, RotJ, and RotS helmets, should armor, shin guards, belt boxes, chestboxes. Each film has a unique Vader suit and fairly maintained continuity within a particular film. The obvious exceptions being modifications made for both the unmasked Vader scenes in Empire and Jedi.

I'm only going with these two examples because there aren't enough clear shots with proper lighting to dissect the helmet right now and the shoulder armor, while also inaccurate, isn't as blatantly obvious.

Here are two shots of the SHF:




Belt Boxes:



The closest to the SHF here are the ESB/RotJ boxes. That makes sense since this is supposed to be the RotJ Vader, as evidenced by the bonus display base and the missing hand. However, not one single button is placed properly here. They don't match up at all. It's pretty self explanatory.

Chestbox:



The chestbox, on the other hand, is some sort of bizarre Frankenstein. The large rocker switches at the bottom are in the configuration of ESB/RotJ, but they are solid colors, like ANH/RotS. They are lacking the proper black outer coloring of the ESB/RotJ pieces and the silver sliders in between. Additionally, the upper and lower colored panels in the upper right are blue and red, per ESB/RotJ, but are also missing the sliders. The Aurabesh text is missing for a proper ESB/RotJ. The rod detailing is also incorrect for any version of the unit.

Cape Chain:



The cape chain is probably the most inaccurate piece, not matching up to any version of the character.



My point was that people can like a figure but that it doesn't matter one whit when it comes to judging its accuracy.

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I also forgot to mention that the Vader figure is being reported as ~155mm in height. Converted, that comes out to about 6'1" or so. David Prowse alone was 6'5", not counting the additional height from the costume pieces.

Woah! Nice job! I honestly didn't expect anyone to go full forensics on this figure. Yeah, the yellow on the chest box is a bit weird.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by Den-O

I believe it's worth caring about for sure. In much the same way it kills me that the W, Agito, etc other rider SHFs are so inaccurate but people give them a pass and say "meh good enough stop nitpicking". I totally respect that someone has legit complaints about this thing being a Vader-stein of design elements and variations of the actual costume.

Except I don't see what makes W and OOO inaccurate to their suits either. I look at my W and I look at the W on screen and they are identical. There is nothing on Vader that looks at all inaccurate. The buttons look just like the pictures posted. So sorry, I fail to see Vader as frankensteined.

[Den-O]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Except I don't see what makes W and OOO inaccurate to their suits either. I look at my W and I look at the W on screen and they are identical. There is nothing on Vader that looks at all inaccurate. The buttons look just like the pictures posted. So sorry, I fail to see Vader as frankensteined.

Well then there's literally no helping you. When someone has picture proof with side by side comparison to show you and you choose to ignore it and say you can't see the differences, what goes through your head? There's clearly proof of it. Literally physical evidence that you're just choosing to ignore. I mean there are literally 4 different versions of the control pad on Vader posted and you're saying you somehow can't tell the difference between any of them?

And W is clearly inaccurate to the suit from the show as well. It's one of the most outdated and inaccurate figuarts out there, right up top with the original Kuuga release & Agito in terms of being very poor representations of the actual characters. That's been widely discussed multiple times on this forum for the last 3 years. If you can't see that, again, I don't really know what else to tell you. If you could at least tell there was an issue and it didn't bother you that would be one thing, but as is you just choose to believe the problem doesn't exist in the first place.

[Guyver Spawn]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Except I don't see what makes W and OOO inaccurate to their suits either. I look at my W and I look at the W on screen and they are identical. There is nothing on Vader that looks at all inaccurate. The buttons look just like the pictures posted. So sorry, I fail to see Vader as frankensteined.

W is missing paint on his gaia memories and some of his body is missing paint too. His figure is almost 5 years old and it's time for a renewal for him. While W is not a horrible figuart but he needs a upgrade though. Not to mention the original W has those old metal feet which makes him feel heavy compare to the figuarts from 2011 - now.

[SideswipePrime]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Except I don't see what makes W and OOO inaccurate to their suits either. I look at my W and I look at the W on screen and they are identical. There is nothing on Vader that looks at all inaccurate. The buttons look just like the pictures posted. So sorry, I fail to see Vader as frankensteined.

Some complain that his v-fin is too large, and that it just sits flat on his head as opposed to being angled back, and the black joints look rather poor, and the Gaia Memories aren't painted in. They don't bother me personally, but those are the issues people have pointed out with Double/W in particular. As for OOO, I have no idea. I only own TaJaDoru, and I see no issues with him in terms of looks.