Kamen Rider Drive Episode 14- "Who Is The Black Shadow Chasing Her?" Discussion

Dr Kain · 01-23-2015, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ElConvoy

Meh. Rather have something new than the generic and rider typical "They were ancient monsters sealed away hundreds of years ago" storyline.

It depends though. I would rather have a reused plot line that is well written than a poorly written bs plot.

Switchblade · 01-23-2015, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Yes, but we did not need the series to spend 45 episodes on a group that was utterly pointless. They should have gotten rid of the Phantoms by the halfway mark since they did not need to exist.

No, we did not. But Kamen Rider has to fill ~48 episodes ever year.

Thundarcat2000ca · 01-24-2015, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by IXRollOutIX

Good point.

That said, I still can't get behind the idea that gaining information from duplicating a pervert, painter, or author forwards their goals in any way. What are the exact logistics there? How do they decide who to copy and how it will give them any of the data they need? On top of that, how does simply helping a human instead of copying them accomplish anything at all? These are things I've had trouble understanding since episode 1.

They're trying not to pigeonhole themselves by following one line of evolution, and if one seems to be either a dead end or drawing too much attention well... that what Chaser is/was for.

ElConvoy · 01-24-2015, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

It depends though. I would rather have a reused plot line that is well written than a poorly written bs plot.

Me too.

My whole comment was based in the hypothetical situation were the plot of wizard is written good.

AkibaSilver · 01-24-2015, 01:53 PM

... Right, now I defintely need that TK Proto-Drive. To the internet!
(Also, they treated the reveal as such a big surprise... when it was pretty damn obvious...)

ElConvoy · 01-24-2015, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AkibaSilver

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(Also, they treated the reveal as such a big surprise... when it was pretty damn obvious...)

Still think this was mostly meant for the characters and not for the audience. Given how much obvious hints they made at it I dont believe they actually thought that noone would put it together.

AkibaSilver · 01-24-2015, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ElConvoy

Still think this was mostly meant for the characters and not for the audience. Given how much obvious hints they made at it I dont believe they actually thought that noone would put it together.

I get that, and it was nice seeing Chase's reaction. I so want him to be redeemed...

Kiwami · 01-24-2015, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AkibaSilver

I get that, and it was nice seeing Chase's reaction. I so want him to be redeemed...

After seeing Proto-Drive I want that too. Mainly because even as Proto-Drive he was still very similar in personality to Chaser, meaning he won't start being a lighthearted, joking hero once he get's his stuff back together. He will still be a butt, but at least one that isn’t controlled by the other Roidmudes.

My initial fear at the start of the show was that they would get rid of Mashine Chaser entirely and Chase would become a Kamen Rider with a completely different personality. From what it looks like now, he will get a new form and join the Riders against the Roidmudes, but he's still the same dude and I wouldn’t be surprised if he's still called Mashine Chaser.

AkibaSilver · 01-24-2015, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiwami

After seeing Proto-Drive I want that too. Mainly because even as Proto-Drive he was still very similar in personality to Chaser, meaning he won't start being a lighthearted, joking hero once he get's his stuff back together. He will still be a butt, but at least one that isn’t controlled by the other Roidmudes.

My initial fear at the start of the show was that they would get rid of Mashine Chaser entirely and Chase would become a Kamen Rider with a completely different personality. From what it looks like now, he will get a new form and join the Riders against the Roidmudes, but he's still the same dude and I wouldn’t be surprised if he's still called Mashine Chaser.

Agreed. I can see him working to defeat the Roimude's by himself as 'atonement', not caring about anything but taking them out. Possibly with a new form, despite how badass the current suit looks.

Dormamu · 01-26-2015, 03:11 PM

Can I like Chase even though he's Leangle rehash? Because I do, and I don't quite know why. Maybe it's the cool suit.

Gou seems a little less jerky, and a lot more protective. I don't mind that.

Overall, while the Roidmudes are fairly underplayed over the slapstick routine and hard-boiled storylines, I don't mind it.

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AkibaSilver Warrior of Delusions! Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Wait, you dont know either? Posts: 5,854	... Right, now I defintely need that TK Proto-Drive. To the internet! (Also, they treated the reveal as such a big surprise... when it was pretty damn obvious...) __________________ Check out my occasional ramblings! https://akibamusings.blogspot.com/

01-24-2015, 02:05 PM	#67
AkibaSilver Warrior of Delusions! Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Wait, you dont know either? Posts: 5,854	Quote: Originally Posted by ElConvoy Still think this was mostly meant for the characters and not for the audience. Given how much obvious hints they made at it I dont believe they actually thought that noone would put it together. I get that, and it was nice seeing Chase's reaction. I so want him to be redeemed... __________________ Check out my occasional ramblings! https://akibamusings.blogspot.com/

01-24-2015, 02:23 PM	#69
AkibaSilver Warrior of Delusions! Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Wait, you dont know either? Posts: 5,854	Quote: Originally Posted by Kiwami After seeing Proto-Drive I want that too. Mainly because even as Proto-Drive he was still very similar in personality to Chaser, meaning he won't start being a lighthearted, joking hero once he get's his stuff back together. He will still be a butt, but at least one that isn’t controlled by the other Roidmudes. My initial fear at the start of the show was that they would get rid of Mashine Chaser entirely and Chase would become a Kamen Rider with a completely different personality. From what it looks like now, he will get a new form and join the Riders against the Roidmudes, but he's still the same dude and I wouldn’t be surprised if he's still called Mashine Chaser. Agreed. I can see him working to defeat the Roimude's by himself as 'atonement', not caring about anything but taking them out. Possibly with a new form, despite how badass the current suit looks. __________________ Check out my occasional ramblings! https://akibamusings.blogspot.com/

01-26-2015, 03:11 PM	#70
Dormamu A jump to the sky.. Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,067	Can I like Chase even though he's Leangle rehash? Because I do, and I don't quite know why. Maybe it's the cool suit. Gou seems a little less jerky, and a lot more protective. I don't mind that. Overall, while the Roidmudes are fairly underplayed over the slapstick routine and hard-boiled storylines, I don't mind it. __________________