[Yellow Ranger]

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Originally Posted by KRX

Guys.

We don't even know the plot of the movie.

We just have a trailer.

And I don't know about you, but when Man of Steel was new, and all we had were trailers, the movie we got was fairly different from what I was expecting.

Before you start decrying the movie for making Superman a fascist or not having a physical villain for them to team up against, just remember: all we know is that Batman and Superman fight, Wonder Woman shows up, Cyborg cameos, everyone teams up, and that this movie leads directly into Justice League. They'll be friends eventually.

I have the feeling some people are just looking for any reason to bitch about this film.

[AgileSiamang7]

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Originally Posted by Yellow Ranger

I have the feeling some people are just looking for any reason to bitch about this film.

Really?

Instead of giving us a direct Superman sequel, they immediately find a reason to put Batman on film again.

People give them a hard time for showing Metropolis in ruins (because Clark's never done that before (fight at the end of JLU, vs Doomsday, anytime Brainiac feels like being a dick and domes the city, making it impossible to "take the fight elsewhere" without taking him down first), so they present the first trailer to the film as "shame on you Clark, now we're going to have Bruce spank you".

We already have Injustice as a "Superman's a bad guy, play Batman twice in story to stop his tyranny" (yeah they have good universe Superman defeat Regime Supes, but did they really have to give both Batman a chapter to play in?).

Show me a time they deliberately make Batman out to be the bad guy in one of his film trailers, and I'll be quiet.

This just reeks of DC getting scared and relying on Batman to draw people in and asking for forgiveness for pissing so many people off with Man of Steel.

But sure, I'm just bitching because I want a Superman film to suck, not because DC is literally giving in to negative feedback and appealing mainly to Batman fanboys (the ones who don't care whether he kills or not, because it still counts as a "win").

[Yellow Ranger]

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Originally Posted by AgileSiamang7

Really?

Instead of giving us a direct Superman sequel, they immediately find a reason to put Batman on film again.

People give them a hard time for showing Metropolis in ruins (because Clark's never done that before (fight at the end of JLU, vs Doomsday, anytime Brainiac feels like being a dick and domes the city, making it impossible to "take the fight elsewhere" without taking him down first), so they present the first trailer to the film as "shame on you Clark, now we're going to have Bruce spank you".

We already have Injustice as a "Superman's a bad guy, play Batman twice in story to stop his tyranny" (yeah they have good universe Superman defeat Regime Supes, but did they really have to give both Batman a chapter to play in?).

Show me a time they deliberately make Batman out to be the bad guy in one of his film trailers, and I'll be quiet.

This just reeks of DC getting scared and relying on Batman to draw people in and asking for forgiveness for pissing so many people off with Man of Steel.

But sure, I'm just bitching because I want a Superman film to suck, not because DC is literally giving in to negative feedback and appealing mainly to Batman fanboys (the ones who don't care whether he kills or not, because it still counts as a "win").

This illustrates my point perfectly.

People are way too quick to cry the sky is falling these days.

[SPLIT LIP]

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Originally Posted by AgileSiamang7

Really?

Instead of giving us a direct Superman sequel, they immediately find a reason to put Batman on film again.

People give them a hard time for showing Metropolis in ruins (because Clark's never done that before (fight at the end of JLU, vs Doomsday, anytime Brainiac feels like being a dick and domes the city, making it impossible to "take the fight elsewhere" without taking him down first), so they present the first trailer to the film as "shame on you Clark, now we're going to have Bruce spank you".

We already have Injustice as a "Superman's a bad guy, play Batman twice in story to stop his tyranny" (yeah they have good universe Superman defeat Regime Supes, but did they really have to give both Batman a chapter to play in?).

Show me a time they deliberately make Batman out to be the bad guy in one of his film trailers, and I'll be quiet.

This just reeks of DC getting scared and relying on Batman to draw people in and asking for forgiveness for pissing so many people off with Man of Steel.

But sure, I'm just bitching because I want a Superman film to suck, not because DC is literally giving in to negative feedback and appealing mainly to Batman fanboys (the ones who don't care whether he kills or not, because it still counts as a "win").

No kidding.

People think the film looks bad because shit in the trailer makes it look bad. There's no hidden agenda, people are sick of DC's entirely reactionary mentality to every movie.

[Yellow Ranger]

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

No kidding.

People think the film looks bad because shit in the trailer makes it look bad. There's no hidden agenda, people are sick of DC's entirely reactionary mentality to every movie.

It's still vastly overreacting at a 3 minute trailer that most likely deliberately showed scenes out of context to drum up discussion.

[WhiteRanger]

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Originally Posted by Yellow Ranger

It's still vastly overreacting at a 3 minute trailer that most likely deliberately showed scenes out of context to drum up discussion.

Completely agree with you. We still don't main reason one rumour going round that lex does some thing to superman in way he controls him and that's the reason batman fight him we still do t know if there big bad other then lex yet ether. The trailer migh just show clips out of context to start debates.

[Yellow Ranger]

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Originally Posted by WhiteRanger

Completely agree with you. We still don't main reason one rumour going round that lex does some thing to superman in way he controls him and that's the reason batman fight him we still do t know if there big bad other then lex yet ether. The trailer migh just show clips out of context to start debates.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...rTrustATrailer

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by Yellow Ranger

I have the feeling some people are just looking for any reason to bitch about this film.

I don't have to find anything to bitch about because the trailer showed everything wrong with the movie. I'm tired of having everything DC in the movies trying to be dark and gritty. It doesn't work in their comics, it doesn't work in their animated movies, it isn't working here. Superman is NOT supposed to be dark and gritty. Batman is NOT supposed to intentionally be shooting missiles at people. Batman is NOT supposed to act like a complete jackass.

You're right, maybe the movie will turn out to be good. However, this trailer makes me not to even bother seeing the movie because my seeing this movie is telling DC I will go see their movies no matter how much they bastardize their characters. Not tjust that, but DC needs to earn my trust with their movies, which they do not have. One, because they have yet to do anyone outside of Batman right. And secondly, they are not screwing up their TV series because of the movies. The people behind Arrow and Flash can no longer use Waller or Deadshot because of this movieverse. What next, they cancel Flash because of the movie?

[KRX]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

I don't have to find anything to bitch about because the trailer showed everything wrong with the movie. I'm tired of having everything DC in the movies trying to be dark and gritty. It doesn't work in their comics, it doesn't work in their animated movies, it isn't working here. Superman is NOT supposed to be dark and gritty. Batman is NOT supposed to intentionally be shooting missiles at people. Batman is NOT supposed to act like a complete jackass.

You're right, maybe the movie will turn out to be good. However, this trailer makes me not to even bother seeing the movie because my seeing this movie is telling DC I will go see their movies no matter how much they bastardize their characters. Not tjust that, but DC needs to earn my trust with their movies, which they do not have. One, because they have yet to do anyone outside of Batman right. And secondly, they are not screwing up their TV series because of the movies. The people behind Arrow and Flash can no longer use Waller or Deadshot because of this movieverse. What next, they cancel Flash because of the movie?

Deadshot was used just last month. Waller showed up in last week's episode. Sure, Deadshot died, but it was a good send-off for the character.

You raise some points that I agree with. You raise some points that I don't.

Just because DC doesn't want to use certain characters for their TV shows because of the movies doesn't mean that the TV shows are going to suffer for it. That's what's great about DC—they have an unbelievably wealthy and expansive plethora of characters available for them to use.

So far, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice has had only one real trailer actually worth talking about, and it provides very little insight as to what the movie is actually going to be about. Yes, it does leave an impression as to what it will be about, but it provides a very limited perspective that may very well be misleading. Saying that the trailer showed everything wrong with the film when this is the only trailer so far is not a fair judgment to make.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by KRX

Deadshot was used just last month. Waller showed up in last week's episode. Sure, Deadshot died, but it was a good send-off for the character.

Yeah, but after this season they are not allowed to use them. That is why Deadshot "died."