[IXRollOutIX]

Also, how is an invisible ghost shooting where not a single person is killed at all shocking compared to the boat ride full of helpless children flung into an exploding tower from episode 1?

[Kiwami]

Or for recent shows, the Global Freeze from Drive. But I think in the light of recent events we should stop looking for mass murders or global tragedies in Kamen Rider just to prove vin13ish wrong.

[Guyver Spawn]

I'm a bit behind Ghost due to school work, so I had to catch up on both episode 4 and episode 5. So far I like how things are going. I do wonder how Ghost is going to get all of the icons soon with Specter in the way? Things are getting interesting.

Specter may be the typical badass secondary rider that we seen a million times before, but I still think that he is pretty cool. Badass anti hero secondary riders are always popular like Knight, Meteor and Baron. So I can see why they made Specter into another anti hero again. I would imagine he would become friends later on similar to Knight and Meteor was.

[Galvantula]

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Or for recent shows, the Global Freeze from Drive. But I think in the light of recent events we should stop looking for mass murders or global tragedies in Kamen Rider just to prove vin13ish wrong.

Agreed. Ghost's main problems right now are pacing and misuse of the Parka Ghost gimmick. If both could be fixed around the time we get to episode 10 this show could turn around. We seriously don't need a grimdark show right now and I'm sure as hell we really don't want another Ninninger.

Vin13ish's fondness for sheer darkness just doesn't gel with what the main audience of these shows want; fun with a strong drive towards action with comedy, with drama added as needed. There's nothing wrong with being lighthearted and perhaps at some point vin13ish will understand this.

[KyoryuGreen]

I enjoyed this episode. Spectre is pretty interesting and I like the whole finding his motivation quest for Takeru. I'm sure it was all just to make Spectre look badass here. I am intrigued with Spectre and Alan's friendship and exactly what he wants with the Ganma. Well I can't wait for more.

[Guyver Spawn]

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Last, I have to ask, who decided the 'historical figures'? Beethoven?.

Well he is the reason why modern day music exist today and everyone has know who he is. I do want to see how the Beethoven forum will turn out in action though.

[GoseiWonder]

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Well he is the reason why modern day music exist today and everyone has know who he is. I do want to see how the Beethoven forum will turn out in action though.

I'd reckon that Toei decided with the time-honored tradition of "names on a dartboard."

[Tokumonkey]

Well... I liked it better than the prior few episodes. So far, Specter has me considerably more interested than Takeru and his Scooby Gang. I think the direction is a good chunk of what's bugging me about the show, both in terms of the fight sequences and in terms of the constant shouting on the part of Makoto and Akari.

I'm probably also a bit spoiled: I've watched several Rider shows that I enjoyed a great deal more over the last two years, and it's probably not fair to expect this show to live up to W, Den-O, Gaim, or OOO.

That Takeru has to compete for Eyecons is a much-needed dynamic. I appreciated getting a week's break from the "guest character of the week has really strong feelings about Winston Churchill and also happens to have Churchill's favorite coffee mug" format.

I still find the Sentai villains pretty distracting. I didn't know quite what to make of the "gangster covered in plastic bags" thing; perhaps I'd best not dwell on it.

But darn it, would it kill the show to throw in some spookiness? I'm not even asking for grimdark, just, y'know. Something that makes it feel like a show about a ghost.

(Well, okay, that Takeru goes invisible/intangible when sulking is actually pretty nifty.)

[IXRollOutIX]

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I didn't know quite what to make of the "gangster covered in plastic bags" thing; perhaps I'd best not dwell on it.

I think they're supposed to be smoking bullet holes.

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But darn it, would it kill the show to throw in some spookiness? I'm not even asking for grimdark, just, y'know. Something that makes it feel like a show about a ghost.

To be fair, Japanese ghost culture is a lot different than it is over in the west.

[TheTakoTank]

So, uh, why didn't Takeru just turn into a ghost and try take back Edison? I guess we could blame that on his stress/pain at that moment, but I'd like to see Takeru use his abilities for more practical/useful purposes soon. Specter was neat; it's a shame I don't like the figuart too much, because he has a really nice design.

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Clearly you haven’t watched Kuuga, the show where the Gurongi kill dozens to hundreds of people every other episode. Which includes a Porcupine Gurongi who tells school students when he plans to kill them, takes extra satisfaction when they commit suicide out of despair before he comes to kill them, and who attends the funerals of his victims to haunt the other students who are next.

Hell, I think one of the Grongi was reported to have killed ~1800 people. Kuuga and Agito were pretty brutal in terms of civilian casualties. The Porcupine episodes of Kuuga (34 & 35, I think) are two of my favorites from Kuuga.

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I thought this is the most controversial episode in Kamen Rider History.

I dunno, I think Starfish Hitler would be a bit more divisive. (To be fair, I have not seen the Starfish Hitler episode)

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It feels incredibly bizarre that an entire month passed between episodes 4 and 5.

On the bright side, that means we'll probably be done with this part of the story and move on to more interesting things sooner rather than later.

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Also, how is an invisible ghost shooting where not a single person is killed at all shocking compared to the boat ride full of helpless children flung into an exploding tower from episode 1?

I'm still miffed that they just glossed over that. It felt so unnecessary, and they don't ever follow up on it.