[Guyver Spawn]

Gaim has become the new Den-O where they are milking it after the show ended. I won't mind one more Gaim direct to video special.

[ScrapMetalRaider96]

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Originally Posted by Guyver Spawn

Gaim has become the new Den-O where they are milking it after the show ended. I won't mind one more Gaim direct to video special.

Yeah, one more (preferably on Sid and Minato with Gridon/Bravo as the Beat Rider representative) is all they really need. That said, it's more akin to Double than Den-O with the movies post series (that said, if they do another one, Sakamoto has to do it)

[Switchblade]

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Originally Posted by Guyver Spawn

Gaim has become the new Den-O where they are milking it after the show ended. I won't mind one more Gaim direct to video special.

Not necessarily. W got a couple of post-show movies, too. Den-O ran on for over three more years after the series wrapped. I'm not sure Gaim will have those kinds of legs.

[Kiwami]

Subs are out on TVNihon.

[barnstenchfartface]

-The black and white flashbacks are so tacky. Unnecessarily so. Speaking of, these weren't the best flashbacks. Sid's in particular was kinda random and the other two meetings weren't particularly exciting either.

-Why does Takatora's Driver not have the right sounds? Seriously, I don't even know what that was but it sure wasn't "Soiya!" Weird.

Anyway, Duke Gaiden wasn't terrible or anything, just kind of...uninteresting. I don't really feel like it offered a whole lot.

-Knuckle's opens with a shoehorned romantic interest. Jeez. Yeah, Gaim Gaiden, Zangetsu's wasn't enough. I mean, thankfully they don't focus on her that much, but it's still totally unnecessary. There really isn't anything she did that other members of the cast couldn't have done.

-"Let's move Zack to New York! So we can make him go back to Japan after three minutes! Yeah!"

-Man Mitchy must have pulled that briefcase from Helfheim or something. Also, where did he come from. Also, why aren't the Kureshimas fighting against these guys again?

-Well that's stupid. Jimber Marron has kind of a Ryugen Yomi thing going on and they didn't bother repainting the back of the helmet. Looks dumb.

--D...did they just kill Zack? For this crap gaiden? It's unclear, but the fact that the possibility is even there is dumb.

Man...Knucle Gaiden is just kinda pretty dumb.

[Enchilada645]

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Originally Posted by barnstenchfartface

-Why does Takatora's Driver not have the right sounds? Seriously, I don't even know what that was but it sure wasn't "Soiya!" Weird.

So I unintentionally found out the sound your talking about. That weird "YOH!" sound is actually from the Watermelon/Proto-10 Lockseed. I only know this because I got my Marron Energy Lockseed and Genesis Core yesterday.

Basically each of the normal Lockseed's have a different noise instead of "Mix!" if their slotted in the Genesis Core when attached to the Sengoku Driver.

The noise that the Watermelon Lockseed makes, is "YOH!" which is exactly the same sound effect used in this Gaiden, for some reason... that's my little tidbit of the day.

Anyway Duke's Gaiden was interesting... though there was one line they said that made me wish it could have been different. Takatora and Ryoma talking about how they used to traverse Helheim together back in the day, I would have totally killed for a story with a fresh Takatora and Ryoma, with little to no combat skills, fighting for survival when first exploring Helheim.

We still would have gotten Lemon Arms out of it, and it would have been a nice precursor to the show. With Ryoma eventually realizing that he needs to make stronger belts (AKA The Genesis Driver) once they run into a very powerful Inves. It would be past the evolved state, but nowhere near the Overlord state.

Knuckle's Gaiden was enjoyable, more enjoyable than Duke's was for me. The romance bit was a tad forced, and when we first got confirmation this was happening I didn't think we'd get Jinba Marron. I honestly thought Zack would have gotten to use Banana Arms if this was in the middle of the series. Or that if it was after the series he would just become a Black Baron. Needless to say I got my wish of Black Baron so there's that.

I did enjoy Jinba Marron though, I thought it was cool to see Zack finally get a form that can give him the power to match stronger opponents. That ending was really ambiguous though. They couldn't just have a scene at the end where Zack wakes up in the hospital and has a touching moment with Peco and his Sister?

To wrap this long post up, if we were to get a new Gaiden, I would want it to be Jonouchi. If only because I found the moment in the finale where he took the mantle of Kurokage to be touching. And while Gridon would be fun to bring back, I'd prefer it if Jonouchi became Kurokage again to take up the mantle permanently, maybe even use Matsubokkuri Energy to get a Jinba Form too.

[Dormamu]

Duke Gaiden....
Well, that was a lot of bromance. Doesn't matter though. I just watched for Minato. mmmm.....Minato.

Knuckle Gaiden....
I actually thought it was quite good. It's what I imagine a real life Street Fighter would look like. (Fun fact, apparently that beefy dude Zach goes up against is an actual K-1 fighter. I think I'd wet myself.) I would agree about confusion over what the point of sending him to So You Think You Can Dance was in New York, other than having a real Kevin Bacon PTSD moment. I did not however feel confused about the ending. He lived, which is why he's dancing by himself at the end. Also Baron is off on his dance timing, so I know it's a dream. Baron never effs up the timing.

Overall Zach was one of my favorite characters other than Oren who got just enough fight time for me to squee, and a little Micchy time, who I still love to hate to love.

The moral I got from this story is don't be afraid to dare to dance for your dream to punch people. That's a lesson we all can learn.

[ZeoRangerV]

If you've been able to use this website without noticing how much I don't like the first Gaim Gaiden I applaud you. So as you can expect I went into this with the lowest of expectations, expecting to watch the same painful cash grab as the first was. However I am genuinely surprised at what I got out of this!

The Duke half is actually genuinely good, and by a country mile the best of the four Gaidens. Unlike the Zangetsu one it managed to cover some of the untold backstory without raising further questions that will never be answered. Though the villain had a rubbish kit bash of suits, the backstory made a reasonable amount of sense and felt like a good tie in with how Ryouma works. The Sid and Minato flashbacks were well done, and Lemon Arms looked great. Very happy with how this turned out.

Knuckle on the other hand is ridiculous, but the kind of ridiculous you can sit down and laugh at how genuinely absurd it all is. Shura gets kicked off Team Baron by Kaito, then turns up a year later practically idolising him, starts a fight club and then pulls out plans to build a giant laser?! It's super dumb, but the whole thing is shot in a way thats meant to make it feel all dark and super meaningful. The link between this and the Duke Gaiden was nice, but was only there so they could pull a really weak "here's some more Drivers" explanation out of thin air. Micchy suddenly pulling out a driver with some fancy new Lockseeds was just as weak. Black Baron was pretty uninspired, and Jimber Marron is easily the ugliest concoction Gaim has ever produced. Its a hideous suit.

Kaito makes me laugh so much though. Him just joining the team and going "mine now" is priceless

So yeah, better than the first two but still not enough to make me want more of these. At this point the only Gaiden I want to see made is a Kougane one because he's the only character that I think has any sort of interesting story to tell. Well, the others do too but not ones that can have new toys shoehorned into them.

[Kiwami]

Watched it today and I enjoyed it a lot. This Gaiden is definitely much better than the first. While Gaiden Baron was completely irrelevant and uninteresting and Gaiden Zangetsu was just not good both Duke and Knuckle Gaiden are fantastic.

They both tell stories worth telling and they make sense independently and together. Duke’s half was very interesting as it gave me what I was always craving for while watching Gaim – more back story for the New Generation Riders. I mean yeah, we only get two short flashbacks for Yoko and Sid, but they work. And Ryoma gets a lot of focus (as he should) and I like that we see him in the phase we’re he hasn’t betrayed Takatora yet but knows he has to do it eventually.

The action was generally good, they got around the crappy looking Zakuro-suit by exclusively using it in a dark and moody setting which made it work. You could still see the individual components bashed together without sense, but it looked good because of the setting and the nice shine they gave to the armor.

I also wasn’t really excepting to see Lemon Energy being used so I was really satisfied when Ryoma did use it in the end, and the cinematic shot at the end with all the New Generation Riders was drop dead gorgeous. Simply amazing.

Knuckle’s story was nice as it gave the character a fitting epilogue. Yes Shura is kind of stupid, especially after he played the James Bond-villain with his city destroying machine, but he was there so that Zack could get more development and I enjoyed that. The story makes sense for him, and the flashbacks were really interesting and well done. The action was good again, especially in the rain. Nothing breathtaking but still nice.

What I loved most about this part however was that we still saw the old gang even though I didn’t expect them. I physically applauded when Oren got into the action and when we saw Micchy again. Only to deliver the ex-machina Driver, but hey.

And the end was again perfect. Zack having his imaginative dialog with Kaito and dancing to the music of the end-credits. Pretty cool.

So if anyone’s asking me I’m fine with more if it’s on this level or even better. Honestly, I really need a Bravo Gaiden before they stop. Oren as a character and Metal Yoshida as an actor deserve their very own story.

[Helios]

Duke was kind of boring, but it was still okay. Knuckle was great! The story was so good and I'm glad that took place after Gaim. I wish Kaito's Genesis Driver was still working so Zack could use Marron Energy Arms.