OFFICIAL Kamen Rider Ghost Thread

Suzu · 01-23-2016, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by IXRollOutIX

Sort of similarly, if you had ONLY watched the show and never payed any attention to promo fliers or magazines, the first glimpse or mention of Necrom is the shot of the Eyecon in the preview for this week's episode.

No, it isn't. The first glimpse of Necrom was in Chou Movie Taisen Genesis, which came out in december. And usually, kids who watch the show will also go watch the movie. And in that Necrom wasn't associated with Alan at all. He just appeared at some point and then disappeared again.

IXRollOutIX · 01-23-2016, 02:52 PM

Did you miss the ONLY in big caps letters? Only means ONLY. I'm aware of Necrom's appearance in the Taisen, but the movies follow a different narrative from the show; often having a completely different writer and director. Now you're just being stubborn.

Suzu · 01-23-2016, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by IXRollOutIX

Did you miss the ONLY in big caps letters? Only means ONLY. I'm aware of Necrom's appearance in the Taisen, but the movies follow a different narrative from the show; often having a completely different writer and director. Now you're just being stubborn.

It's because I have SEEN the movie. Like 90% of Japanese people who watch the show. And the narrative is the same as the show's, even though it doesn't blend in flawlessly. It's canon nonetheless for both Ghost and Drive. Toei considers that when they plan a show. That's how the marketing here works. If you watch the show, you're supposed to watch the movies too.

IXRollOutIX · 01-23-2016, 10:03 PM

The movies rely and attempt to stay in line with the show, for sure. But what I'm saying is that, more often than not, the shows DO NOT in fact rely on the movies and therefore the episodic plot usually isn't disrupted by the events that go on there. Exceptions happen of course, but Ghost didn't acknowledge Movie War Genesis at all within the televised storytelling.

I still think the reason Alan as Necrom wasn't established in the movie is because it just wasn't necessary. Alan AS Necrom isn't as important as simply previewing the suit. Just like the appearances in magazines and commercials, they want as many kids to see what the third Rider looks like so that they know who to search for on toy shelves before the suit is actually revealed within the show. The whole thing is supplemental advertising and basically irrelevant to the plot happening on television.

This is frustrating because it's so clear there's a misunderstanding here. We're both right in a way, because as I said earlier, it's all about perspective; point of view. It's obvious that advertising executives wanted to present Necrom's identity as a mystery. What I'm arguing is that the writer for the TV show (a different person than whoever wrote the movie, mind you) didn't intend it to be like that. I'll bet that if we had it THEIR way, we wouldn't have even seen Necrom until the preview at the end of this week's episode, and by then it's obvious who's behind the mask.

From the standpoint of the show's narrative thus far, the surprise was supposed to be: "Alan is now a Rider." From the standpoint of the advertising (including the movie) the surprise was supposed to be: "Necrom is Alan." The issue here is that the two directions conflicted, and in the end nothing is a surprise at all.

Helios · 01-23-2016, 11:48 PM

So Houdini is Specter's upgrade form. Then Specter in Necrom Damashii would be his super form. Ghost and Specter both have a new form planned for April, so I guess that'll be his final form. Although Specter doesn't have that many Eyecons, the upgrades for Ghost and Specter seem to be consistent.

Helios · 01-24-2016, 02:39 AM

Presenting...Necrom Grimm Damashii

GreenPsychoRanger · 01-24-2016, 02:52 AM

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Presenting...Necrom Grimm Damashii

I am in love.

IXRollOutIX · 01-24-2016, 03:35 AM

Do we know who is providing the voice samples for the Megauloder? Because from what I could tell in this week's preview, they're fantastic. Not quite Faiz gear levels of sexy, but pretty close. "TENGAN! MEGA-RU-ODE."

Helios · 01-24-2016, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by IXRollOutIX

Do we know who is providing the voice samples for the Megauloder? Because from what I could tell in this week's preview, they're fantastic. Not quite Faiz gear levels of sexy, but pretty close. "TENGAN! MEGA-RU-ODE."

It should be in the credits for next week's episode.

Paladin · 01-24-2016, 11:07 AM

Very minor look at Ghosts' next Damashii- Himiko!

01-23-2016, 06:29 PM	#1573
Suzu Super Sentai Eien ni Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Germany Posts: 2,862	Quote: Originally Posted by IXRollOutIX Did you miss the ONLY in big caps letters? Only means ONLY. I'm aware of Necrom's appearance in the Taisen, but the movies follow a different narrative from the show; often having a completely different writer and director. Now you're just being stubborn. It's because I have SEEN the movie. Like 90% of Japanese people who watch the show. And the narrative is the same as the show's, even though it doesn't blend in flawlessly. It's canon nonetheless for both Ghost and Drive. Toei considers that when they plan a show. That's how the marketing here works. If you watch the show, you're supposed to watch the movies too. Last edited by Suzu; 01-23-2016 at 06:35 PM..

01-23-2016, 11:48 PM	#1575
Helios Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 2,250	So Houdini is Specter's upgrade form. Then Specter in Necrom Damashii would be his super form. Ghost and Specter both have a new form planned for April, so I guess that'll be his final form. Although Specter doesn't have that many Eyecons, the upgrades for Ghost and Specter seem to be consistent. __________________

01-24-2016, 02:39 AM	#1576
Helios Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 2,250	Presenting...Necrom Grimm Damashii __________________

01-24-2016, 02:52 AM	#1577
GreenPsychoRanger Tokusatsu Hero Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Kentucky Posts: 6,643	Quote: Originally Posted by Helios Presenting...Necrom Grimm Damashii I am in love. __________________

01-24-2016, 10:40 AM	#1579
Helios Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 2,250	Quote: Originally Posted by IXRollOutIX Do we know who is providing the voice samples for the Megauloder? Because from what I could tell in this week's preview, they're fantastic. Not quite Faiz gear levels of sexy, but pretty close. "TENGAN! MEGA-RU-ODE." It should be in the credits for next week's episode. __________________

01-24-2016, 11:07 AM	#1580
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