DC Comics Appreciation Thread

Guyver Spawn · 02-25-2016, 12:21 AM

People need to clam down for the R rated Batman v Superman director's cut. If they had done this to the theater release I'd agree that it would be stupid, but it's just for home video only.

Galvantula · 02-25-2016, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Guyver Spawn

People need to clam down for the R rated Batman v Superman director's cut. If they had done this to the theater release I'd agree that it would be stupid, but it's just for home video only.

I've been following DC since I was a wee lad and I see this issue two ways.

Dan Didio cannot run a company, pure and simple. His obsession with making things as dark and depressing has cost the company money and in a age where comics will never make the green they made years it makes no business sense to keep him where he is now. So while having a R- Rated Superman movie seems like an insult do keep in mind the MCU, for better or worse has changed how comics are written these days.

DC only has Batman as their biggest name, unlike Marvel who has a good chuck of characters the general public knows about. To put in simply Didio isn't fit for his position and the R-rated cut is yet another highlight on his questionable practices.

On the other hand making super hero movies with ratings that aren't PG-13 do drum up more business and henceforth more money and as every corp will tell you...

Also while it's highly doubtful Superman will become an overly dark and grim setting it's important to remember the character's over 75 years old at this point. Sometimes it's good to stray off the beaten path and see where it takes the audience. Also having two cuts of BvS may end up a good thing in the long run, although I will concede with Paladin and state that Zack Snyder's needlessy grey vision isn't going to fly as well since the MCU has proven that yes; people like color and not feeling like human garbage all the time.

ZeoRangerV · 02-25-2016, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Galvantula

DC only has Batman as their biggest name, unlike Marvel who has a good chuck of characters the general public knows about.

That isn't strictly true. "Superman" is about as household name as you can get, irregardless of the quality recent comics and/or adaptations.

ElConvoy · 02-25-2016, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeoRangerV

That isn't strictly true. "Superman" is about as household name as you can get, irregardless of the quality recent comics and/or adaptations.

Yeah. Everbyode knows who Superman is. They might know nothing about him but every human on the Planet has at least heard of Superman.

Galvantula · 02-25-2016, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeoRangerV

That isn't strictly true. "Superman" is about as household name as you can get, irregardless of the quality recent comics and/or adaptations.

True; Superman is a big name that everyone knows about. It's just that he isn't as well know as Batman is what I was trying to state.

Thessair · 02-25-2016, 09:42 AM

I finally got around to watching last night's Arrow. While I'm ecstatic to see them expanding the roster to characters like Vixen, Megalyn Echikunwoke's acting sadly hasn't gotten any better since she was the worst thing about The 4400.

I definitely have to give the actors credit for managing to stand around with their serious faces on while she sniffed that Flash action figure. I'd love to see the outtakes for that bit.

The Constantine shout-out was a nice touch, too.

Dr Kain · 02-25-2016, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Galvantula

Dan Didio cannot run a company, pure and simple. His obsession with making things as dark and depressing has cost the company money and in a age where comics will never make the green they made years it makes no business sense to keep him where he is now. So while having a R- Rated Superman movie seems like an insult do keep in mind the MCU, for better or worse has changed how comics are written these days.

Trying something new is not the problem. Making things dark for the sake of it is. The reason Superman and Batman work so well together is because they are exact opposites. One is dark and grim, the other is colorful and heroic. There is no reason to fix what ain't broke, and their tones are not broke.

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DC only has Batman as their biggest name, unlike Marvel who has a good chuck of characters the general public knows about. To put in simply Didio isn't fit for his position and the R-rated cut is yet another highlight on his questionable practices.

That's because DC won't actually take anything else seriously. They could easily do several characters with several different genres. The Question would make for a perfect Film Noir. The Spectre would make a great grindhouse horror film. Dr Fate be a super natural thriller. Do a horror anthology with the House of Mystery and House of Secrets. Make an actual Jonah Hex western. Sgt Rock could be a WWII drama. Black Lightning as a blackploitation film.

They have characters that could fit every genre.

Galvantula · 02-25-2016, 07:25 PM

@Dr. Kain: Why are you acting like I like things to be dark and grim all the time? The way you replied to my post makes it look like I'm some stupid buffoon and honestly I'm so tired to being treated like I know nothing around here.

I know DC has characters that can fit into other genres, but like you I've grown worn out by the overt Batman focus and more than anything I just want something new and fresh. If everytime I post something people are going to "correct" me then yes, I can take the hint that my opinions aren't worth much to you. I'm sick of being told I'm wrong all the damn time.

Guyver Spawn · 02-25-2016, 07:35 PM

Well we have a M rated Batman game, so a R rated solo Batman movie could be possible. The original Batman Year One was script was close to R rated before Warner Bros ask to rewrite it. While I don't like the idea of a R rated Batman movie, it won't surprise me if it does happen in the future.

Yellow Ranger · 02-25-2016, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Guyver Spawn

Well we have a M rated Batman game, so a R rated solo Batman movie could be possible. The original Batman Year One was script was close to R rated before Warner Bros ask to rewrite it. While I don't like the idea of a R rated Batman movie, it won't surprise me if it does happen in the future.

I don't mind an R rated Batman...as long as it's handled well.

I don't think Snyder or current DC/WB can handle it well.

02-25-2016, 12:21 AM	#1881
Guyver Spawn Tokusatsu Hero Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Maryland Posts: 6,292	People need to clam down for the R rated Batman v Superman director's cut. If they had done this to the theater release I'd agree that it would be stupid, but it's just for home video only. __________________ She/Her

02-25-2016, 09:30 AM	#1882
Galvantula Neon Blade Outlaw Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Californa Posts: 2,725	Quote: Originally Posted by Guyver Spawn People need to clam down for the R rated Batman v Superman director's cut. If they had done this to the theater release I'd agree that it would be stupid, but it's just for home video only. I've been following DC since I was a wee lad and I see this issue two ways. Dan Didio cannot run a company, pure and simple. His obsession with making things as dark and depressing has cost the company money and in a age where comics will never make the green they made years it makes no business sense to keep him where he is now. So while having a R- Rated Superman movie seems like an insult do keep in mind the MCU, for better or worse has changed how comics are written these days. DC only has Batman as their biggest name, unlike Marvel who has a good chuck of characters the general public knows about. To put in simply Didio isn't fit for his position and the R-rated cut is yet another highlight on his questionable practices. On the other hand making super hero movies with ratings that aren't PG-13 do drum up more business and henceforth more money and as every corp will tell you... Also while it's highly doubtful Superman will become an overly dark and grim setting it's important to remember the character's over 75 years old at this point. Sometimes it's good to stray off the beaten path and see where it takes the audience. Also having two cuts of BvS may end up a good thing in the long run, although I will concede with Paladin and state that Zack Snyder's needlessy grey vision isn't going to fly as well since the MCU has proven that yes; people like color and not feeling like human garbage all the time. __________________ 3DS F.Code: 2363 6720 7569 Quote: Originally Posted by Mmicb0b inb4 his final form is just MetalCluster Hopper wearing all the belts

02-25-2016, 09:34 AM	#1883
ZeoRangerV Kawaii 5-0 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Cardiff, United Kingdom Posts: 12,851	Quote: Originally Posted by Galvantula DC only has Batman as their biggest name, unlike Marvel who has a good chuck of characters the general public knows about. That isn't strictly true. "Superman" is about as household name as you can get, irregardless of the quality recent comics and/or adaptations. __________________ My Shiny Toy Robots: Toku, Anime & Toy Reviews

02-25-2016, 09:41 AM	#1885
Galvantula Neon Blade Outlaw Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Californa Posts: 2,725	Quote: Originally Posted by ZeoRangerV That isn't strictly true. "Superman" is about as household name as you can get, irregardless of the quality recent comics and/or adaptations. True; Superman is a big name that everyone knows about. It's just that he isn't as well know as Batman is what I was trying to state. __________________ 3DS F.Code: 2363 6720 7569 Quote: Originally Posted by Mmicb0b inb4 his final form is just MetalCluster Hopper wearing all the belts

02-25-2016, 09:42 AM	#1886
Thessair SHF Buying Fool Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 3,586	I finally got around to watching last night's Arrow. While I'm ecstatic to see them expanding the roster to characters like Vixen, Megalyn Echikunwoke's acting sadly hasn't gotten any better since she was the worst thing about The 4400. I definitely have to give the actors credit for managing to stand around with their serious faces on while she sniffed that Flash action figure. I'd love to see the outtakes for that bit. The Constantine shout-out was a nice touch, too. Last edited by Thessair; 02-25-2016 at 09:56 AM..