[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by Powerman293

I hate kid characters like the 3 stupid toddlers from MSG or these two from Zeta and ZZ. They just seem unnecessary and annoying to me, and detract from the seriousness and attention to the story. Good thing Bandai has realized this and kept them out of more recent shows.

Except for the one episode in Jaburo with them removing all of the bombs, I didn't hate the trio in the original show as much as I hate these guys. At least those kids had a reason to be there and didn't want to leave because they started to look at Fraw as a mother figure.

These kids though, feel forced in.

Anyway, I decided to watch four more episodes tonight. Not sure what else I can say about the show I haven't already said, but damn they were so good. I think my favorite episode is the one where Char gives his speech to the world about the truth of the Titans. Also, of course it was great seeing the Psycho Gundam and Four is an interesting character despite how little she is in the show. In fact, the whole Kilimanjaro two parter is truly spectacular.

[Powerman293]

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

Also looks like they may edit events, as the Unicorn is in full armour fighting the Neo Zeong this time.


I thought it was very good. Will definitely be better on rewatching, since the week long breaks can make slow episodes feel longer than they are. I never thought the animation was sub par at all, in fact I thought it was consistently high.

I disagree. That Earth atmospheric entry fight had some low detail stuff in there.

[Yellow Ranger]

I just found out Wilfred Kijima and Shinn Asuka have the same voice actor...

*internally squees*

[Dr Kain]

Shinn Asuka... probably the worst Gundam pilot ever. God I hate Asuka. He felt like they were trying to recreate Kamille (hell, they even kill his girlfriend off in the same manner with a Not Psycho Gundam) and was so annoying they decided to make him a secondary character and turned Kira into the main character again. Now that is pretty bad.

[Yellow Ranger]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Shinn Asuka... probably the worst Gundam pilot ever. God I hate Asuka. He felt like they were trying to recreate Kamille (hell, they even kill his girlfriend off in the same manner with a Not Psycho Gundam) and was so annoying they decided to make him a secondary character and turned Kira into the main character again. Now that is pretty bad.

No that's Kira.

[Talisman]

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Originally Posted by Yellow Ranger

No that's Kira.

That. Shinn gets my sympathy by 1) actually having an okay if been-done character, 2) NOT being Kira, and 3) Having his show stolen out from under him by Jesus H. Yamato and being shoehorned into "mindless berserker" territory.

[Dr Kain]

No, I have no issue with Kira in the first series. I'm not a fan of him, but I don't hate him the way I hate Shin. Shin is just a wannabe Kamille but without any likability to him.

Anyway, what can I say? I have completed Zeta Gundam and my god six years was too long of a wait to rewatch this show. I really need to watch it again later on this year at a slower pace, but I'll probably wait and do that after both volumes of ZZ are out. The last batch of episodes are down right fantastic, albeit not without their little hiccups. For example, the AEUG has joined forced with Axis, but then suddenly they are fighting against Axis in the next episode becaaaaaaaaaause, well, just because. No reason is given why Kamille suddenly wants Haman dead, he just does. Also, as awesome as the last two episodes are, way too many characters die in too short of a time span to the point where it feels like they were being killed just for the sake of it instead of because the story needed them to die. I love it and hate it at the same time. The Quebeley is hands down the best non-Gundam mech in the franchise and Haman Karn is easily the best female character. My god that lady is just insanely badass. The animation continues to impress, especially in the fast motion scenes at the end and the ending itself is so depressingly good.

Oh, I kept forgetting to mention this, but the subtitles are kind of weird at times. I'm not sure why they keep saying "Corrected" for discipline, but it just seems like a really odd word choice. Also, do the Japanese have a different definition for what an autistic child is? Because Kamille is not even remotely autistic.

I'm still unsure as to whether this or Wing is my favorite Gundam series, but it is definitely right there. Of course, I haven't watched Wing in 6 years either, so my opinion of it may not be as high anymore.

With that said, the wait for the ZZ BD is going to be unbearable. I know its only 2-3 months away, but that can feel like a long time when you are highly anticipating it.

[Yellow Ranger]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

No, I have no issue with Kira in the first series. I'm not a fan of him, but I don't hate him the way I hate Shin. Shin is just a wannabe Kamille but without any likability to him.

I like Shinn for his calling the old cast out on their self-righteous hypocrisy,willingness to take responsibility for his actions*knowing that saving Stellar would likely lead to his death by execution*,Actually piloting with his own skill other then relying on a computer to do the work*cough*Kira*cough* and for being way less whiny then Kira despite his life being much shittier.

[Talisman]

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Originally Posted by Yellow Ranger

I like Shinn for his calling the old cast out on their self-righteous hypocrisy,willingness to take responsibility for his actions*knowing that saving Stellar would likely lead to his death by execution*,Actually piloting with his own skill other then relying on a computer to do the work*cough*Kira*cough* and for being way less whiny then Kira despite his life being much shittier.

Again, agreement.

Shinn had actual character. He was deeply, DEEPLY flawed, but watching him was actually rewarding, there was some investment to be made with the raging, vengeance-fueled Kamille stand-in.

[Yellow Ranger]

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Originally Posted by Talisman

Again, agreement.

Shinn had actual character. He was deeply, DEEPLY flawed, but watching him was actually rewarding, there was some investment to be made with the raging, vengeance-fueled Kamille stand-in.

Atleast until they made Kira the lead again...