[Sentai]

Gaim has problems. I enjoyed Gaim, let me say that first off. It's enjoyable. But then it became all Gods and Monsters and everyone had these extreme super-powers to stop missiles and travel through time and ... Gaim became Kabuto but without Riders existing solely to give Gaim weapons and no other reason. No, wait, there was that to. Oh and one point the entire series becomes trying to capture the girl as a trophy before and after the mad scientist kills her because plot! ... Despite this I did enjoy it. I promise I did.

[Fish Sandwich]

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Originally Posted by Sentai

Gaim has problems. I enjoyed Gaim, let me say that first off. It's enjoyable. But then it became all Gods and Monsters and everyone had these extreme super-powers to stop missiles and travel through time and ... Gaim became Kabuto but without Riders existing solely to give Gaim weapons and no other reason. No, wait, there was that to. Oh and one point the entire series becomes trying to capture the girl as a trophy before and after the mad scientist kills her because plot! ... Despite this I did enjoy it. I promise I did.

You did? Because I don't like Gaim and I think that post sounded overly negative. Gaim's side Riders all have like, arcs, and stuff. Not always well executed ones, but everyone except Marika has something to do for the whole show.

The only one in Kabuto who feels like they have any reason to be in the show past their first couple episodes is Sasword, and he dies with about 10 episodes left in the show. At least when Kouta uses other Riders' weapons, he isn't literally stealing them right out of their hands with a big sword he just magically willed into existence with no explanation in one episode.

Side-note: Poor Marika. Even putting aside the implied sexism of having the sole female Rider in your show spend most of her time licking the ground other characters walk on, she just feels like such a waste of a character.

I kind of feel like, even if the plot requires her to not be around for the final episodes, they could've done that in a way that doesn't involve her dying pointlessly. If they had her maybe grow over the course of the last couple episodes, they could've had her maybe stand up to Kaito with everyone else, and maybe while they're at it have Kaito kill her himself to make it clear how far he's gone, or something. Anything.

At the very least, they could've had her be just injured from the fall she takes, which A, makes more sense than her somehow dying from what shouldn't be that dangerous an explosion while transformed, and B, allows her to stay out of the action while also allowing her to survive. I would not have minded seeing her with the other side characters in the epilogue episode.

[KyoryuGreen]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

By the end of the series, Oren and Zack were the only characters worth rooting for anymore

Pretty much who my favorites of the series are. Also I enjoyed Jonouchi as well at the end too. Well also Takatora was great till they threw him in limbo.

[KyoryuGreen]

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Originally Posted by Sentai

Gaim has problems. I enjoyed Gaim, let me say that first off. It's enjoyable. But then it became all Gods and Monsters and everyone had these extreme super-powers to stop missiles and travel through time and ... Gaim became Kabuto but without Riders existing solely to give Gaim weapons and no other reason. No, wait, there was that to. Oh and one point the entire series becomes trying to capture the girl as a trophy before and after the mad scientist kills her because plot! ... Despite this I did enjoy it. I promise I did.

I have to agree with you it had great ideas in the beginning but evolved into a mess. I think the execution could have been a lot better. I find myself writing better endings to the show every time I talk about it with my brother.

[Matrixbeast]

After a certain point in Kabuto, it really started to feel like Gatack should've been the main character. Like, he grows, he learns, and he struggles like a main character should.

[Fish Sandwich]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

After a certain point in Kabuto, it really started to feel like Gatack should've been the main character. Like, he grows, he learns, and he struggles like a main character should.

I feel that was deliberate though. Like, Tendou is the guy the show's named after, and he gets to save the day all the time, but for all intents and purposes, Kagami is the main character.

There are plenty of shows where the protagonist isn't the most important person in the world, or the series is named after someone else. Gattack may not get to be the big hero, but the show spends as much time with him as it does with Tendou, and they're very clearly designed to compliment one another as characters, even before Kagami becomes a Rider.

[KyoryuGreen]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

After a certain point in Kabuto, it really started to feel like Gatack should've been the main character. Like, he grows, he learns, and he struggles like a main character should.

Yeah Kagami definitely feels like the main character and part of the time the only reason I watched the show. Though Tendou was something else.

[Switchblade]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

After a certain point in Kabuto, it really started to feel like Gatack should've been the main character. Like, he grows, he learns, and he struggles like a main character should.

Tendou doesn't have to grow; he's already perfect.

[Sunred]

They did try to break him during the whole Dark Kabuto story but nope, same ol Tendou.
But back to the topic at hand, Gaim was awesome and if Gaim was a person and I was mayor I would give it the key to the city. I will admit those collabo eps were mostly horrid minus the ToQger special.

[NGW]

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Originally Posted by Makai Knight

If we go by that "logic" then you have use spoiler tags for movies that came out in 1920 or 1895.

That "logic" is ridiculous. If the show is on presently use spoiler tags for the most recent episode. If it has been well over a year there is absolutely no need for a spoiler tag. If anyone didn't watch it when came on and decided to later gets spoiled they have only themselves to blame for not exercising the minuscule intelligence needed to know a topic about a show they haven't seen yet will have spoilers for them.

I have had several seasons I was interested in spoiled for me, even older ones I was in the process of watching, because of a lot of this forum's (and other's to be fair) aversion to just marking or hiding their spoilers. I'm sorry if I like to not know critical plot details or twists ahead of time and want to see the show unfold naturally and that it is such an inconvenience for you to properly use tags or add in a couple extra lines of text warning of potential spoilers.

It is just common fucking courtesy, is that so damn hard?

And it isn't as simple as "avoiding places where you'll see spoilers". I've seen spoilers in threads about the toys, such as (Ghost Spoilers) that Necrom becomes a good guy in the thread revealing his Figuart release (wow, it really was soooo hard to use that spoiler tag). A lot of people do have that attitude where they just assume things are common knowledge or just don't care about not ruining things for other people. Having some arbitrary 30-day cutoff point is bs. If you are going to give away plot details or twists, just use a damn spoiler tag no matter if it is going all the way back to the original Kamen Rider or the newest episode of Ghost.