[vin13ish]

For the Kamen Rider shows that I like, That would be Den-O

I watch this show back in 2007. Before this show, I wasn't a Kamen Rider Fans because most of 2000s Kamen Riders were BORING especially Faiz one!

This show was the reason of I got into Kamen Rider. It was funny and it was very unique. While it got MCU-Villain Problem. The show is still enjoying to this day! I would wish to go back 2007 where it was a good time!

[Yellow Ranger]

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Originally Posted by ZeoRangerV

Because half of them aren't fully subbed, and those that are weren't done by TV-Nihon or Overtime so people don't pay attention to them - that's all there really is to it. You'll always get people that won't watch them because they're old or whatever, but ultimately people aren't going to seek out things that a) aren't readily accessible or b) done by a group that they show unnecessary loyalty to.

TBH TV-Nihon's subs are complete shit.

[Annuga]

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Originally Posted by Yellow Ranger

Watch. Black.

I plan on doing that, I still need to finish Amazonz though, and I'm scared about getting seizures from Black

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Originally Posted by vin13ish

TBH, If I have to rant about the Kamen Rider Shows that I don't like, That would be Wizard.

It was boring! They says Drive and Ghost are not good show but how about Wizard?! The characters are more dull than Drive and Ghost! Some of their episodes are RUBBISH! Don't get me started on that bird one! I felt this one got be the WEAKEST Kamen Rider show of Phase 2! Their theme song are so rubbish! This singer really botched the song! I just hated that show! Beast didn't play any important role at all beside sacrifice his belt to save humanity I think

RUBBISH! RUBBISH! RUBBISH!

First of all, this isn't Marvel, don't call it Phase anything. Second, Life is Showtime was actually a pretty damn catchy song. I'm not going to pretend Wizard is great, I find it okay, but it's at least got things better than Ghost, Phantoms were pretty likeable, yet Ganma weren't.

[Annuga]

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Originally Posted by Yellow Ranger

TBH TV-Nihon's subs are complete shit.

This is the first I've heard of that. I'd actually like an explanation

[KyoryuGreen]

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Originally Posted by Annuga

tbh Showa stuff is REALLY cheesy, I watched Amazon and an episode of Stronger. It's so damn ridiculous that one could say it doesn't hold up to today's standards. It's why I'd love an Amazonz-ish Stronger

Stronger was ridiculously awesome! I love how he escaped death traps without explaining to the villains how he did it!

[KyoryuGreen]

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Originally Posted by ZeoRangerV

Because half of them aren't fully subbed, and those that are weren't done by TV-Nihon or Overtime so people don't pay attention to them - that's all there really is to it. You'll always get people that won't watch them because they're old or whatever, but ultimately people aren't going to seek out things that a) aren't readily accessible or b) done by a group that they show unnecessary loyalty to.

Bah people don't have the blind devotion to the series that I have! Willing to watch HK Subs just because I want to watch those series. So what if I don't know the villains plans in Super-1 I still got what was going on most of the time lol.

[Annuga]

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Originally Posted by KyoryuGreen

Stronger was ridiculously awesome! I love how he escaped death traps without explaining to the villains how he did it!

It's still stupidily cheesy, though how many episodes in do you believe it gets good?

[KyoryuGreen]

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Originally Posted by Kiwami

No it doesn’t, that’s why people don't like it.



A few episodes ago Onari doodled on a sleeping Alain’s face; he still does this shit whenever they make room for it.

And where does Onari grow exactly? Akari I can understand because she constantly rises to the challenge, but Onari doesn’t. There’s two points in the entire show where he did something worthwhile: One, dealing with Javel. Second, fighting against the Knive Ganma.

He never did anything noteworthy outside of these two points, and if he did something to help out it’s always coupled with bullshit comedy like him playing a punk to get Takeru und co. into Deep Connect or him being possessed by Goemon. And we can’t really know if he grows because we know nothing about who he is. He teased once that he was sinful in the past but Takerus dad saved him, never is this mentioned again and never do they built upon it.

Akari grows as a character, Onari doesn’t. He’s the weakest comedic relief filler in a long time.



I don’t see that at all. It’s just the familiar episodic adventures style but worse than usual.



Alain I give you, he's the most well developed character in the show, but Makoto? Nah. Most if not all of his arcs are either about him being absent or they’re trash. Like his "using Houdini’s power"-arc… where talking with Houdini is done through getting run over by a motorcycle frequently. WTF.



Because the first half is really, really weak. And we know that because the second half is so much better. So it’s easy to see why people don’t enjoy Drive: Having to watch half a show to get to the good part is not the most entertaining thing to do.

As this post was more about ranting than debating I'm not really going to go into this much.

I think Ghost's story is fantastic and I'm not the only one who thinks this. I just don't like people calling it a weak show when honestly it's not. It holds up in a multitude of ways.

Onari I think is a gem and one of the best comic relief characters but he is so much better when they play up his compassionate role especially with Javert. He understands how he can help Takeru and does his best to do that.

I wish they would stop playing let's fuck with the secondary rider in the last 3 series because Baron, Mach, and Spectre all get shit on at different points of each story but besides that Makoto I think has a had a lot of great story moments and the plot moved forward when he was introduced. He helped push Takeru and helped convince Alain to change too. Makoto is extremely essential to the plot.

Well see in Black RX, Stronger and Amazon they would just help random people who needed help, which Random people go to Takeru to help. So it is very much has a Showa-Era feel to it and I wouldn't be surprised with it being an anniversary season.

I dunno the first half of Drive made me emotional for a little toy car, so I can't really say that it was weak and after that shit ending of Gaim I couldn't wait for Drive all the time afterwards.

Now this might be a thing of tastes but the Paranormal/Supernatural/Ghost elements with the historical figures I love the hell out of and the Android Threat/Cop Drama/Superhero elements made Drive amazing too. If it would have ended better I would've been fine with Biblical Break Dance Fighting Fruit too but I wasn't.

[KyoryuGreen]

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Originally Posted by Annuga

It's still stupidily cheesy, though how many episodes in do you believe it gets good?

Um I loved it by the first episode. Though it does get better when General Shadow shows up though. It takes a dark turn halfway through as well.

[Annuga]

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Originally Posted by KyoryuGreen

As this post was more about ranting than debating I'm not really going to go into this much.

I think Ghost's story is fantastic and I'm not the only one who thinks this. I just don't like people calling it a weak show when honestly it's not. It holds up in a multitude of ways.

Onari I think is a gem and one of the best comic relief characters but he is so much better when they play up his compassionate role especially with Javert. He understands how he can help Takeru and does his best to do that.

I wish they would stop playing let's fuck with the secondary rider in the last 3 series because Baron, Mach, and Spectre all get shit on at different points of each story but besides that Makoto I think has a had a lot of great story moments and the plot moved forward when he was introduced. He helped push Takeru and helped convince Alain to change too. Makoto is extremely essential to the plot.

Well see in Black RX, Stronger and Amazon they would just help random people who needed help, which Random people go to Takeru to help. So it is very much has a Showa-Era feel to it and I wouldn't be surprised with it being an anniversary season.

I dunno the first half of Drive made me emotional for a little toy car, so I can't really say that it was weak and after that shit ending of Gaim I couldn't wait for Drive all the time afterwards.

Now this might be a thing of tastes but the Paranormal/Supernatural/Ghost elements with the historical figures I love the hell out of and the Android Threat/Cop Drama/Superhero elements made Drive amazing too. If it would have ended better I would've been fine with Biblical Break Dance Fighting Fruit too but I wasn't.

This thread is called 'Let's RANT about Riders'. Kiwami has all the right in the world to criticize the show. The story is lazy, a fan would have to admit that Takeru getting resurrected 3 times is absurd, and in no way justifiable as all 15 Eyecons are around Takeru. The threat of staying dead no longer hold meaning as Takeru would only need 5 minutes offscreen

Onari. Best comedic character. Pick one, Bravo worked because he was over the top camp gay. Sasword worked because he was over the top 'muh noblesse oblige' combined with his over the top ignorance. Onari isn't over the top, he just yells a lot. Hell, I remember getting pain in my eyes when he yelled "A DRAGON?!" out of nowhere.

Ghost isn't an anniversary season. It has next to no references outside of spinoffs. Fourze worked as an anniversary season because all the characters were based on previous Riders if you played with their names, not to mention Fourze not only acknowledges previous Riders, but was planned to have older Riders appear in the show
If by 'weak and shit ending' you mean the stuff with Jam, then you're not looking at the 'ending', but an epilogue, there's a difference.


Not tackling the Drive argument because I enjoyed the first half too

Again, pretend the epilogue doesn't exist. Same applies to W.

Something else I'd like to complain about Riders. Movie Exclusive Forms. Outside of Fourze, no MEF was later referenced in the show. TaJaDor and Boost debuted in movies, yes, but that doesn't work as the shows themselves get different explanations