[EpsilonX]

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Originally Posted by Annuga

Please no. Gaim did a fake death, Drive did a fake death and Ghost has done a total of 4. We don't need another one

Didn't Fourze do it too? I haven't seen much of it but I heard that it did.

[Annuga]

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Originally Posted by EpsilonX

Didn't Fourze do it too? I haven't seen much of it but I heard that it did.

Fourze did too, but my point was that Ex-Aid would be the fourth in a row to do it. Though now that I think about it Wizardragon died for an episode so yeah. Not to mention pulling a fake death after Ghost which had one in the first episode, one at the 14th(?), two in the early 30's (Makoto) and apparently one in the movie would just make people more annoyed. It's like if someone tried to impress Gordon Ramsey with a sandwich, and the guy after him makes a sandwich too in an attempt to compete. It might be better, but it's not winning points in originality nor will Gordon care

[MaskedRiderAsakura]

The trailer definitely gives me early Heisei vibes, which I'm digging.\


And I've said it before, the suits are loud, obnoxious and garish and I absolutely love them.

[Fish Sandwich]

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Originally Posted by Annuga

two in the early 30's (Makoto)

Wait what huh? Makoto? You mean when his Eyecon was destroyed and Takeru and Alain teamed up to go get his real body? Because if you do the show was never treating that like a death. At all. Unless I'm forgetting something pretty major.

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Originally Posted by MaskedRiderAsakura

And I've said it before, the suits are loud, obnoxious and garish and I absolutely love them.

I'm just happy to know they still have the compound eyes under there. Now I can focus on how much I love the shade of pink(ish) Ex-Aid is. Eat your heart out, Decade!

[vin13ish]

I hope this one will be more improvement than Drive and Ghost especially Ghost.

I still have a feeling that Ex-Aid will take a dark turn in latter ones because Gaim didn't start off dark until it reveal of what happens to Kouta's friend who was turn into monster and killed by him. That's dark if you think about it

[Annuga]

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Originally Posted by vin13ish

That's dark if you think about it

It's almost like Gaim was dark and was primarily written by someone who specializes in dark stories

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Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich

Wait what huh? Makoto? You mean when his Eyecon was destroyed and Takeru and Alain teamed up to go get his real body? Because if you do the show was never treating that like a death. At all. Unless I'm forgetting something pretty major.



I'm just happy to know they still have the compound eyes under there. Now I can focus on how much I love the shade of pink(ish) Ex-Aid is. Eat your heart out, Decade!

Wasn't it being treated like death by Kanon? I forget. My bad if I'm wrong

[Fish Sandwich]

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Originally Posted by Annuga

Wasn't it being treated like death by Kanon? I forget. My bad if I'm wrong

I don't remember how she acted about it but I do remember Makoto explicitly telling Takeru "Yo, my real body is in the Ganma World, I'm actually just an Eyecon, dude!" shortly before the scene in question. Maybe like a whole episode even? Admittedly, some of Ghost is kind of a blurr even to me so I don't really blame you for forgetting.

[AgileSiamang7]

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Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich

I don't remember how she acted about it but I do remember Makoto explicitly telling Takeru "Yo, my real body is in the Ganma World, I'm actually just an Eyecon, dude!" shortly before the scene in question. Maybe like a whole episode even? Admittedly, some of Ghost is kind of a blurr even to me so I don't really blame you for forgetting.

Even if he still had a body, he was beaten in battle which everyone saw and was basically stuck in a hostile world, at the mercy of a guy who could snuff him out at any time, and considering how sad everyone is whenever Takeru disappears, yeah Makoto's "death" is counted. Not exactly anymore saddening then when someone is carded in Yu-Gi-Oh!, but it's a "death" none the less.

[Fish Sandwich]

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Originally Posted by AgileSiamang7

Even if he still had a body, he was beaten in battle which everyone saw and was basically stuck in a hostile world, at the mercy of a guy who could snuff him out at any time, and considering how sad everyone is whenever Takeru disappears, yeah Makoto's "death" is counted. Not exactly anymore saddening then when someone is carded in Yu-Gi-Oh!, but it's a "death" none the less.

I really don't think it does. The problem everybody has with Takeru dying is that the show is "faking you out", isn't it? With Makoto the audience knows the whole time he'll be fine, and the characters know he's still alive too, so how does it count?

[barnstenchfartface]

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Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich

I really don't think it does. The problem everybody has with Takeru dying is that the show is "faking you out", isn't it? With Makoto the audience knows the whole time he'll be fine, and the characters know he's still alive too, so how does it count?

IIRC, there actually was a certain degree of ambiguity about Makoto at that point. Right before his "death," there had been the whole thing where he went to the Ganma world to get his body back. However, the show didn't actually tell us if he did or did not accomplish that while he was there--he was just going around saying he came to get his body back and then meet Alia/fight Adel, so some of us assumed he just did it off screen. Of course later we learned that's not the case, but at the time, up until his body vanishes and the Eyecon explodes, we didn't really know one way or the other. And of course as they are wont to do, the previews were really pushing the "Makoto's dying" angle.

So it was a little ambiguous for a little bit there. I wouldn't even bet that the showrunners intended that to be the case, but it sorta ended up being that way anyway.