What are you watching? (Kamen Rider Edition)

Dr Kain · 10-01-2016, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich

I know you've barely seen Ghost but I think Onari gives him some competition. He's more helpful but more annoying, so it kind of balances out.

I was thinking of bringing him up, but I couldn't remember his name. From the two episodes I watched he was definitely worse than Shunpei.

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and deeply hamstrung by Koyomi's actress being largely unavailable.

See, I have to call bullshit on this one. I don't know who made up that excuse, but she signed on to do the show and therefore should have been focusing on that and not doing anything else if she couldn't handle walking and chewing gum at the same time. Are contracts in Japan as meaningless to them as Fair Use?

Fish Sandwich · 10-02-2016, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

I don't know who made up that excuse, but she signed on to do the show and therefore should have been focusing on that and not doing anything else if she couldn't handle walking and chewing gum at the same time. Are contracts in Japan as meaningless to them as Fair Use?

I always interpreted it to mean she signed on with the explicit deal she wouldn't have to show up too often, not that she was just being flaky.

Like Toei basically said "sure you're playing a main character but whatever, we'll just have them write around you!", thus shooting Wizard in the foot before it even started. The contract is probably exactly the problem, if I had to guess.

Suzu · 10-02-2016, 03:26 PM

I think you underestimate the celebrity bonus Koyomi's actress has. She is and already was HUGE in Japan before Wizard, because she's a member of a super-popular girlband (PASSPO☆). She probably signed up thinking it was a minor role or her agency felt it was a good thing to boost her acting career (which she certainly should not follow because that's not quite her talent) or whatever and ended up having more "important" stuff to do, such as model work or band-related stuff.
Since it's mostly her agency that has a word in her schedule, I'm pretty sure they set her priorities and considering that those agencies have pretty strict policies, I don't think Toei could do a lot against that.

Dr Kain · 10-02-2016, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Suzu

her agency felt it was a good thing to boost her acting career

Maybe they should have checked to see if she could actually act first.

Suzu · 10-02-2016, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Maybe they should have checked to see if she could actually act first.

Yup, but then again, idols seem to HAVE to do acting these days. She was probably forced, seeing how she never looks like she actually has fun acting x,D

Powerman293 · 10-02-2016, 04:49 PM

Kamen Rider 4 special

Wow, this was good. SHT GP was fine, but not great. This was an unexpected surprise going in, and I wish more crossovers were like this, focusing on a band of a few characters from different shows and one thing that is trying to be accomplished.

First of all, I love the basic premise of the repeating time loop, makes for a very simple yet effective story I don't think has been done in Rider before. (I haven't seen Den-O so correct me on that if they have done it.) Takumi and Yuuto's prescene here was defintley worth it for their actors coming back (especially Takumi). I wish the staff could have gotten Tachibana's actor in this since I would have loved to see him interact with everyone else, but I feel like he might have distracted from the plot of this very tight knit story or just had no role.

Kamen Rider 4 was an awesome design for a Rider, being based on pilots, even having a little radio earpiece, alongside the Zyuranger eske mouth going on.

I felt like this special was fantastic closure for Takumi regarding Faiz. We get to see Kaidou again, a huge surprise for me, we get to see Takumi chilling on the same hill that he was at the end of the show (they even show that clip). And all Takumi wants is the sweet release of death. I guess going based off Igadevil's headcanon about Kamen Rider Taisen, that Mari, Keitaro and others have moved on, yeah Takumi is kind of lonely and has no purpose. His ending was a nice resolution for his character, and his actor did a good job of setting this end up the past 2 movies. Since Kiba can't come back, Kusaka's dead and so is Takumi, I guess the only way they can wrap up the plot thread of the Orphenoch king is by bring Mihara back to become Delta. Ex-Aid Taisen movie maybe?

I was sort of getting confused when Takumi was talking about getting revived whether they meant when he became an Orphenoch or he somehow died and got revived from the end of the show until now. I think it was the former.

It wasn't super clear if Kaido was working with Shocker or not and if it was just a means of keeping Takumi around for longer since he too is without friends (considering Kiba died and Yuuka too). I like to think he was trying to just keep Takumi around.

The reveal at the end though the great leader was Takumi or took on his form or something really came out of left field and was the only really bad decision regarding the show. Why? Oh, and he uses a Faiz Signal Bike to transform. Okay.

I also have a hard time understanding how the time loop works. I understand that machines seem to be unaffected (Given how Belt-san had data from Shinnouske dying) and that at least the Drive crew got their memories more filled in with each loop. But then how does Shocker getting stronger work? I could understand maybe Rider 4 getting completed faster after each reset as they learn how to make him, but those Shocker grunts going through the streets and the planes and more enemies popping up in general? I don't get it.

barnstenchfartface · 10-05-2016, 07:24 PM

Black episode 11.

What a prescient series. Just a couple of episodes ago the plot of the week involved teens in street dancing groups in a turf war, now people are turning into plants with evil fruit. The more things change I guess.

MarsHottentot · 10-05-2016, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by barnstenchfartface

Black episode 11.

What a prescient series. Just a couple of episodes ago the plot of the week involved teens in street dancing groups in a turf war

Loved that episode! Their dancing was so corny awesome and, c'mon, you know those girls dated after.

Switchblade · 10-05-2016, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by barnstenchfartface

Black episode 11.

What a prescient series. Just a couple of episodes ago the plot of the week involved teens in street dancing groups in a turf war, now people are turning into plants with evil fruit. The more things change I guess.

If the dancing episode is the one I think it is, it's also pretty much the exact same plot as Kabuto's last major story arc.

KyoryuGreen · 10-06-2016, 05:34 AM

Amazon Episode 12: A look inside how the Beastmen are created. Well it's good to know they were human before, I guess that explains why Mole Beastman is the way he is, probably wasn't the worst criminal before hand. My favorite part had to be that Amazon knows strategy and did a lot of great work sneaking into Gedon's base. I mean you have to have a high level of intellect and wisdom to survive in the jungle so just because he can't speak doesn't mean he wasn't intelligent. I just loved his courage and wisdom this episode from stopping the criminal to infiltrating Gedon's base. The fight was kick ass and brutal, I just love watching Amazon rip apart these beastmen with his awesome moves. I can't wait to see him fight the 10-Faced Demon next episode should be awesome.

10-01-2016, 11:48 PM	#13691
Dr Kain Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Englewood CO Posts: 10,893	Quote: Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich I know you've barely seen Ghost but I think Onari gives him some competition. He's more helpful but more annoying, so it kind of balances out. I was thinking of bringing him up, but I couldn't remember his name. From the two episodes I watched he was definitely worse than Shunpei. Quote: and deeply hamstrung by Koyomi's actress being largely unavailable. See, I have to call bullshit on this one. I don't know who made up that excuse, but she signed on to do the show and therefore should have been focusing on that and not doing anything else if she couldn't handle walking and chewing gum at the same time. Are contracts in Japan as meaningless to them as Fair Use? Last edited by Dr Kain; 10-01-2016 at 11:50 PM..

10-02-2016, 01:04 AM	#13692
Fish Sandwich The Immortal King Tasty Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Every diner you've ever been to. Posts: 4,026	Quote: Originally Posted by Dr Kain I don't know who made up that excuse, but she signed on to do the show and therefore should have been focusing on that and not doing anything else if she couldn't handle walking and chewing gum at the same time. Are contracts in Japan as meaningless to them as Fair Use? I always interpreted it to mean she signed on with the explicit deal she wouldn't have to show up too often, not that she was just being flaky. Like Toei basically said "sure you're playing a main character but whatever, we'll just have them write around you!", thus shooting Wizard in the foot before it even started. The contract is probably exactly the problem, if I had to guess. __________________

10-02-2016, 04:49 PM	#13696
Powerman293 Man with a plan Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,297	Kamen Rider 4 special Wow, this was good. SHT GP was fine, but not great. This was an unexpected surprise going in, and I wish more crossovers were like this, focusing on a band of a few characters from different shows and one thing that is trying to be accomplished. First of all, I love the basic premise of the repeating time loop, makes for a very simple yet effective story I don't think has been done in Rider before. (I haven't seen Den-O so correct me on that if they have done it.) Takumi and Yuuto's prescene here was defintley worth it for their actors coming back (especially Takumi). I wish the staff could have gotten Tachibana's actor in this since I would have loved to see him interact with everyone else, but I feel like he might have distracted from the plot of this very tight knit story or just had no role. Kamen Rider 4 was an awesome design for a Rider, being based on pilots, even having a little radio earpiece, alongside the Zyuranger eske mouth going on. I felt like this special was fantastic closure for Takumi regarding Faiz. We get to see Kaidou again, a huge surprise for me, we get to see Takumi chilling on the same hill that he was at the end of the show (they even show that clip). And all Takumi wants is the sweet release of death. I guess going based off Igadevil's headcanon about Kamen Rider Taisen, that Mari, Keitaro and others have moved on, yeah Takumi is kind of lonely and has no purpose. His ending was a nice resolution for his character, and his actor did a good job of setting this end up the past 2 movies. Since Kiba can't come back, Kusaka's dead and so is Takumi, I guess the only way they can wrap up the plot thread of the Orphenoch king is by bring Mihara back to become Delta. Ex-Aid Taisen movie maybe? I was sort of getting confused when Takumi was talking about getting revived whether they meant when he became an Orphenoch or he somehow died and got revived from the end of the show until now. I think it was the former. It wasn't super clear if Kaido was working with Shocker or not and if it was just a means of keeping Takumi around for longer since he too is without friends (considering Kiba died and Yuuka too). I like to think he was trying to just keep Takumi around. The reveal at the end though the great leader was Takumi or took on his form or something really came out of left field and was the only really bad decision regarding the show. Why? Oh, and he uses a Faiz Signal Bike to transform. Okay. I also have a hard time understanding how the time loop works. I understand that machines seem to be unaffected (Given how Belt-san had data from Shinnouske dying) and that at least the Drive crew got their memories more filled in with each loop. But then how does Shocker getting stronger work? I could understand maybe Rider 4 getting completed faster after each reset as they learn how to make him, but those Shocker grunts going through the streets and the planes and more enemies popping up in general? I don't get it. __________________ My Twitter Last edited by Powerman293; 10-02-2016 at 04:52 PM..

10-05-2016, 08:13 PM	#13698
MarsHottentot Oldtaku Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Atlanta, Ga / Portland, Me Posts: 855	Quote: Originally Posted by barnstenchfartface Black episode 11. What a prescient series. Just a couple of episodes ago the plot of the week involved teens in street dancing groups in a turf war Loved that episode! Their dancing was so corny awesome and, c'mon, you know those girls dated after. __________________

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KyoryuGreen Sky Henshin! Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 4,779	Amazon Episode 12: A look inside how the Beastmen are created. Well it's good to know they were human before, I guess that explains why Mole Beastman is the way he is, probably wasn't the worst criminal before hand. My favorite part had to be that Amazon knows strategy and did a lot of great work sneaking into Gedon's base. I mean you have to have a high level of intellect and wisdom to survive in the jungle so just because he can't speak doesn't mean he wasn't intelligent. I just loved his courage and wisdom this episode from stopping the criminal to infiltrating Gedon's base. The fight was kick ass and brutal, I just love watching Amazon rip apart these beastmen with his awesome moves. I can't wait to see him fight the 10-Faced Demon next episode should be awesome. __________________ My Sales Thread! Lower Prices!