[Dormamu]

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Originally Posted by Handle Ken

When the Shocker appeared, Kino sounded like he knew about them. How did he know about them? I am sure he has never met them before... or atleast, never on-screen.

Generally speaking, everyone knows about Shocker. We'll call it the "Decade Effect". It doesn't quite make sense, and it may involve underpants.

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Originally Posted by macblo

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On a side note, why was this show named Kamen Sentai GoRider? They come from out of nowhere and weren't mentioned before or after their appearance. How did Emu even get those cards? For that matter, what were those cards? Toei has a nasty habit of doing that don't they? Naming a movie or special after a character or plot element that really isn't that important. They had five actors returning for what is essentially an epilogue story, yet they chose to name it after a joke?

Emu got the cards at the end of Chou Super Hero Taisen. I won't ruin it, but they get used then too.

It's not a nasty habit. It's historical wistfulness on the part of Toei. Because how else are you going to consistently beat your viewers over the head/give the nostalgia fans their pantsu explosions than showing as many Heisei characters as possible. It used to just be every once in a while, but as we get into the 'major' anniversaries (20, 25, 35, 40, 50, or 2000 episodes), the nostalgia choo choo just runs everyone over. Personally, I don't mind, it gives me some more information about series that I have yet to watch. And it's infinitely more satisfying than having a JDF return every season on some other Super Mega show.

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Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich

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Toei, we've gotta talk. What do you have against Emu? The man is nothing short of a saint, the perfect role-model for all the children in the audience, and you just won't leave him alone. When he isn't in his own show, having his entire life manipulated by the main bad guy, having his friends die, being treated like a nuisance by his friends who aren't dead, or failing to save the people he sets out to help, he's in spin-off projects getting his face shoved into used syringes, beaten with a metal pipe, stabbed, and, and this rate, probably getting gunned down in the street in the summer movie or something. What did he do to deserve any of this? Are the writers over there taking bets as to who can put Emu through the most s***? Because that's just messed up. You people make me sick.

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But how else am I supposed to feel about Emu? If he were blander, he would be Takeru from Ghost. Where he really shines is when he is in his M persona. Let's face it, Ex-Aid has a medical motif and for good or bad everyone gets to be a bleeder. I also have to believe (I gotta believe) that unlike Takeru getting killed and revived every ten episodes, they decided it would be easier to just maim Emu a lot until he got the message. Also Kuroto is just a d--k.

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Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich

The plot is a remarkably engaging Twilight Zone style mystery, too. It caught me off-guard way more than I expected. There were some great twists and making a major point out of Kenzaki not actually being dead was some stellar writing. You totally could've glossed over that as an excuse to bring Blade back and no one would've cared. But they went the extra mile and both played on the viewer's inherent trust of a returning face AND let said returning face get to be the key player in saving the day at the end. As a huge Blade fan I couldn't be much happier.

There was no loss of character attributes in the writing, was there? And I agree, that was the best part. Having it as no more than six hero characters made it easier to develop in the 90 minutes. Granted the gaping plot hole of 'let's follow the guy that gets stabbed a lot', but I'll ignore it. It wasn't Twilight Zone. It was Groundhog Day: The Game.

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Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich

As for the actual Go-Rider part of Go-Rider, it sure was a thing. It's almost whiplash inducing when those cards abruptly show up, but the fight scene itself is goofy fun, and if that's the price we have to pay to get this cool story, so be it.

Here's your dead horse. - Toei

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Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich

Oh, and back when Gaim was airing I was pretty certain Kaito would eventually lead a Sentai team while doing goofy poses.

Kaito/Baron really needed his own series.

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

I loved this. Man, this was great. I was afraid they wasted Kenzaki with the reveal last episode, so I had the biggest grin when the real Kenzaki showed up. I also loved the use of his lore to actually beat the game.
...I don't know if that's how it quite works (I distinctly remember a monolith and a swarm of darkroaches), but I don't really care
It was cool. I honestly just rolled with the initial reveal of "He's an Undead who sacrificed his humanity, so he's basically dead for all intents and purposes," so I was pleasantly surprised that they dug their heels and said "No, Blade is still alive. Not between life and death, not technically dead, none of that." So it was neat.
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Still, there are a few parts that are head scratching.
First, how could Kenzaki sense the cards being used in the virtual world? I mean, yeah, I know Undead are drawn to each other, but that one is a bit of a stretch...
Second, why did Dan use Blade of all Riders? I know he needed to pick a Rider whose whereabouts were unknown, but I'm pretty damn certain Kickhopper cares if someone steals his likeness. This is more of a story telling reason over anything, since I love Blade and Kenzaki
Third, does this mean that Decade is even worse at continuity? Since main universe Blade dimension hopped to kill Decade, that would mean that 1. His universe now only has 1 Undead (Hajime), and 2. The universe Blade was in likely didn't have any Undeads, so...Shouldn't 2 worlds have been destroyed?
Fourth, why didn't Kenzaki have a final scene to help cap things off? I'm a little disappointed. He and Emu just leave the game world, and he's just gone...

Still, I really loved this crossover. Honestly, if THIS was the Super Hero Taisen film, I would've been very satisfied.

OH YES, ONE MORE THING I GOT TO MENTION:
It's super awkward to watch Blade and Another Agito transform beside Ex-Aid, Laser, Baron, and Marika. They're so loud and bright, and they just stand there, waiting, since everyone else has a million special effects and sounds to play before they actually transform. It's such a hilarious contrast.

The use of Blade's lore to fill in the gaping plot hole was possibly one of the better tricks used in a crossover.

As an Undead, Kenzaki is able to sense when other Undead are around. Kind of like being the Highlander. In the virtual world though....again, we'll use the Decade Effect.

Dan used Kenzaki because an Undead Orphenoch is that bridge gap between the living and non-living world. Easier when you are a zombie I'm sure.

Let's just all admit that Decade gets one thing right. It is so #$@%@%$ up that you could literally throw any continuity in there and call it factual.

Kenzaki didn't need a final scene. He just dusted himself off and moved on.

[Matrixbeast]

I guess I can't really argue against it. Everything really is Decade's fault

I mainly wanted a final scene with Kenzaki because he deserves a little something. Sacrificed everything for someone else. Dude deserved a balloon, too

[The Chaos Entity]

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Originally Posted by Dormamu

Dan used Kenzaki because an Undead Orphenoch is that bridge gap between the living and non-living world. Easier when you are a zombie I'm sure.
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Orphenochs are involved?

[MaskedRiderAsakura]

I think this is one of the few crossovers that actually paid attention to continuity and lore from past Rider series.


Also, is anyway thinking we might see Figuarts made for Kamen Sentai Gorider before we see an actual full Sentai team in the line again?

[ShinGi]

Dan is pretty much Junko from Danganronpa.

[Annuga]

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Originally Posted by ShinGi

Dan is pretty much Junko from Danganronpa.

I really hope so if it means he keeps coming back stronger and stronger. Hell, end it off with him bringing Brodai and actually using Ultimate to it's full potential to go even. Shit's gooood

[catwhowalks]

Just watched the third episode and I was shocked. I really was expecting a silly slapped together little action bit that was thrown together to advertise the movie. Instead I got a suspenseful little character drama that actually paid attention to past characters and lore and relied on those things as plot points.

One of the best things I've watched recently.

[VoidinToku]

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Originally Posted by Dormamu

Generally speaking, everyone knows about Shocker. We'll call it the "Decade Effect". It doesn't quite make sense, and it may involve underpants.



Emu got the cards at the end of Chou Super Hero Taisen. I won't ruin it, but they get used then too.

It's not a nasty habit. It's historical wistfulness on the part of Toei. Because how else are you going to consistently beat your viewers over the head/give the nostalgia fans their pantsu explosions than showing as many Heisei characters as possible. It used to just be every once in a while, but as we get into the 'major' anniversaries (20, 25, 35, 40, 50, or 2000 episodes), the nostalgia choo choo just runs everyone over. Personally, I don't mind, it gives me some more information about series that I have yet to watch. And it's infinitely more satisfying than having a JDF return every season on some other Super Mega show.



But how else am I supposed to feel about Emu? If he were blander, he would be Takeru from Ghost. Where he really shines is when he is in his M persona. Let's face it, Ex-Aid has a medical motif and for good or bad everyone gets to be a bleeder. I also have to believe (I gotta believe) that unlike Takeru getting killed and revived every ten episodes, they decided it would be easier to just maim Emu a lot until he got the message. Also Kuroto is just a d--k.



There was no loss of character attributes in the writing, was there? And I agree, that was the best part. Having it as no more than six hero characters made it easier to develop in the 90 minutes. Granted the gaping plot hole of 'let's follow the guy that gets stabbed a lot', but I'll ignore it. It wasn't Twilight Zone. It was Groundhog Day: The Game.



Here's your dead horse. - Toei



Kaito/Baron really needed his own series.



The use of Blade's lore to fill in the gaping plot hole was possibly one of the better tricks used in a crossover.

As an Undead, Kenzaki is able to sense when other Undead are around. Kind of like being the Highlander. In the virtual world though....again, we'll use the Decade Effect.

Dan used Kenzaki because an Undead Orphenoch is that bridge gap between the living and non-living world. Easier when you are a zombie I'm sure.

Let's just all admit that Decade gets one thing right. It is so #$@%@%$ up that you could literally throw any continuity in there and call it factual.

Kenzaki didn't need a final scene. He just dusted himself off and moved on.

It's obvious Kiriya is getting the most focus among the goriders. He's getting another special after this 3 part mini series and the Taiwan movie.

[AgileSiamang7]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

OH YES, ONE MORE THING I GOT TO MENTION:
It's super awkward to watch Blade and Another Agito transform beside Ex-Aid, Laser, Baron, and Marika. They're so loud and bright, and they just stand there, waiting, since everyone else has a million special effects and sounds to play before they actually transform. It's such a hilarious contrast.

Aren't Ex-aid's henshins basically Blade's now, since they tend to cut out the 'cutscenes'/robot attaching and all of that? Sure, 99 still get's fanfare, but basic Ex-aid seems just as fast as Blade's.

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by AgileSiamang7

Aren't Ex-aid's henshins basically Blade's now, since they tend to cut out the 'cutscenes'/robot attaching and all of that? Sure, 99 still get's fanfare, but basic Ex-aid seems just as fast as Blade's.

It might not have been Ex-Aid in specific.
I was just noting how long Kenzaki and Kino were just standing there, slowly waiting to transform