[ZeoRangerV]

You had a good run Super-1!

[ZeoRangerV]

This would be a really good fight, but like many have already said Kuuga just needs to break out the god-tier forms and Kiva has had it.

[Dairenoh]

I voted Kuuga for reasons already mentioned in this thread.

[MidoGreen]

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Originally Posted by Switchblade

I honestly do think this would be an awesome fight and I'd love to see it actually happen. I really do think they're evenly matched until Kuuga pulls out the godtier forms. At that point it becomes a total slaughter, but up until then it would be really cool - like when Decade fought Kiva using the Kuuga cards, but better because these are the real guys (and while I will never claim to actually like Wataru, he is way better than the Decade version of Kiva).

Man, somebody needs to get Koichi Sakamoto, Kenji Tomanaga, and Seiji Takaiwa together to actually film this.

This needs to happen so much. Especially with Koichi Sakamoto choreographing the battle.

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Originally Posted by Den-O

I think we all know that in most scenarios the only logical outcome of this fight is Kuuga. I LOVE kiva but even I must admit that if you ran this battle 100 times Kuuga would win a majority of the time. Of course there could be the right odd set of conditions allowing Kiva to win but its unlikely. The only other rider who could give Kuuga a loss is Agito.

I dunno, I think OOO could give Kuuga a run for his money personally. I'm looking forward to that match as much I was looking forward to this fight.

[ryan]

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Originally Posted by Den-O

While I love Kiva and the show I am voting Kuuga. As I explained this isn't a popularity contest of which rider we like more. It's a battle based on the statistics of the 2 fighters. In every way Kuuga would win. As much as I hate to admit it he would win.

I consider myself a rampant fanboy of both Kuuga and Kiva. I do prefer Kiva, but I agree with the majority of comments. It would be a fairly matched fight, until Kuuga goes Rising form.

Poor Kiva.

[KamenRiderOOO]

There is one thing that could give Kuuga trouble in this fight- if Kiva removes Zanvat from the sword. It'd unleash his Fangire nature, and he could start draining Kuuga of energy, which could revert him to Growing form with prolonged use. Plus, the Zanvat Sword can destroy Sabbats. Imagine what he could do without the limiter.

[Sentai]

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Originally Posted by KamenRiderOOO

There is one thing that could give Kuuga trouble in this fight- if Kiva removes Zanvat from the sword. It'd unleash his Fangire nature, and he could start draining Kuuga of energy, which could revert him to Growing form with prolonged use. Plus, the Zanvat Sword can destroy Sabbats. Imagine what he could do without the limiter.

What OOO said

[Switchblade]

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Originally Posted by KamenRiderOOO

There is one thing that could give Kuuga trouble in this fight- if Kiva removes Zanvat from the sword. It'd unleash his Fangire nature, and he could start draining Kuuga of energy, which could revert him to Growing form with prolonged use. Plus, the Zanvat Sword can destroy Sabbats. Imagine what he could do without the limiter.

Yeah, I don't think even an unleashed Zanvat sword is going to hold a candle to Ultimate form. There's so much energy there that it would probably burn up Wataru's body before it significantly weakens Yusuke.

I think the thing is that people who haven't seen Kuuga assume that Ultimate form works like any other Rider's final form. It doesn't, though. Kuuga's Rising forms are on par with some other Riders' final forms and few other Riders can match Amazing Mighty in power. Ultimate form was designed to be a power so horrible that it could destroy the world if Yusuke couldn't control it. Kuuga is almost ludicrously overpowered. That's just the way the show made him (it's probably one of the main reasons why Decade's Kuuga was made the rookie; he'd have easily overpowered any of the other Riders if he was written like the original version).

Basically, if you think of it in DBZ terms, if an ordinary Rider's final form is like going Super Saiyan, Ultimate Kuuga is like SS3 (minus the stupid hair).

[Blade Raider]

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Originally Posted by Switchblade

Basically, if you think of it in DBZ terms, if an ordinary Rider's final form is like going Super Saiyan, Ultimate Kuuga is like SS3 (minus the stupid hair).

Does that make Rising Ultimate SS3 with the stupid hair?

[Odin]

no rising ultimate is ss4 which is also stupid then again so was everything about gt xp