[prfctcellrulz]

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Originally Posted by Annuga

See, I don't entirely agree with this because let's be real there are easily worse games at E3 yet the second highest hated game on that list was Battletoads iirc because of *checks notes* the meme that it's CalArts even though the gameplay looks incredibly fun with fluid animation. Contra should be at the top even if I fully agree that Pokemon really needs to change

Then you don’t know how our fanbase works.

[Annuga]

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Originally Posted by prfctcellrulz

Then you don’t know how our fanbase works.

I do. I fully agree that this quite frankly shouldn't be acceptable and that the Pokemon Company needs to stop churning out new gens quickly as it's clearly a detriment to the franchise that already has pretty damn low standards by reusing the same formula and story almost all the time. I get the hate, I highly agree with the criticisms but fucking Contra Rogue Corps shouldn't be that low on the list where that source is from

[Kurona]

Fallout 76 being that low is surprising

[Kiwami]

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Originally Posted by Kurona

Fallout 76 being that low is surprising

Seriously, that's most definitely the worst E3-thing this year.

"We're adding NPC's and a BATTLE ROYALE MODE".

Like, there’s no way any self conscious being with a set amount of intelligence and awareness of the gaming industry cannot feel utterly insulted by that. Fallout 76 is a garbage fire that keeps on burning and the more fuel Bethesda pours into it the more disgusted I am as a person who casually enjoys videogames as a medium in general.

Pokémon doing a no-no and Battletoads looking like garbage has nothing on Fallout 76 being a living, breathing caricature of what's fundamentally wrong in modern gaming.

It being this low is positive on one hand as it indicates that the people who would be angry at it have just moved on, on the other hand, it really deserves being hated much more than Pokémon or Battletoads.

[Annuga]

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Originally Posted by Kiwami

Seriously, that's most definitely the worst E3-thing this year.

"We're adding NPC's and a BATTLE ROYALE MODE".

Like, there’s no way any self conscious being with a set amount of intelligence and awareness of the gaming industry cannot feel utterly insulted by that. Fallout 76 is a garbage fire that keeps on burning and the more fuel Bethesda pours into it the more disgusted I am as a person who casually enjoys videogames as a medium in general.

Pokémon doing a no-no and Battletoads looking like garbage has nothing on Fallout 76 being a living, breathing caricature of what's fundamentally wrong in modern gaming.

It being this low is positive on one hand as it indicates that the people who would be angry at it have just moved on, on the other hand, it really deserves being hated much more than Pokémon or Battletoads.

"ok but the funny man said WOOOOOOOOOOOO constantly that makes it ok"
Those people probably

[prfctcellrulz]

@EveryMonCounts, the official #BringBackNationalDex Twitter page

[Matrixbeast]

The entitlement of the Pokemon fanbase is staggering.

[Spearichu]

I never filled a national dex because I just don't see any reason. So why are people making this huge of a fucking deal? I must be missing something because this all just doesn't make sense to me that people might not get the game over this and no megas or z moves. Also onto the no megas it sucks but it already seemed like they didn't care much about them anymore with the fact how annoying it was to get them in Sun and Moon and that they were a post game thing.

Out of all problems with main Pokemon games and these are the ones people got so upset about? Damn.

[Kiwami]

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Originally Posted by Spearichu

I never filled a national dex because I just don't see any reason. So why are people making this huge of a fucking deal? I must be missing something because this all just doesn't make sense to me that people might not get the game over this and no megas or z moves. Also onto the no megas it sucks but it already seemed like they didn't care much about them anymore with the fact how annoying it was to get them in Sun and Moon and that they were a post game thing.

Out of all problems with main Pokemon games and these are the ones people got so upset about? Damn.

It's not that there's no national dex to fill, the problem is that if a Pokémon isn’t listed in the regional dex you cannot have it in the game.

So a good amount of past Pokémon will not be available in Sword & Shield. Which sucks. If your favorite Pokémon didn’t make it into the new regional dex then you're screwed basically.

[Matrixbeast]

And what difference does that make?
No complete dex of Pokemon has ever been available in one game.
What if Sw/Sh had a full national dex, but there was no method to obtain, say, any Gen 5 Pokemon? There was no method to transfer them across, there was no area in the game where they would appear, and no trainers offered them for trade.

There would be literally no possible way to get any of the 151 Unova Pokemon, even if their data was present.

Then what? We don't know if they would make them available. Kalos came and went, with the "Obvious" Z version never showing up, so it's not like Pokemon is predictable even when the clear pattern is present. So just because a national dex would be in the game, doesn't mean they would have any intention of shoveling all 900 critters into it.

Which would be better? Having hope that characters might become available down the line, with absolutely no promise or even hinting towards them even doing so, or just knowing what your options are from the get go?

This issue is just where the line has to be drawn for by the devs. My all time favorite Pokemon is currently Primarina. A starter. Unless it's X/Y giving you a Kanto starter for free, you only get one, and unless there's some post game content that allows it, that's your lot. Primarina isn't going to be in Sw/Sh. And even with a nat dex, she wouldn't become available unless there's some stupid ass gamestop event. How do you think I feel, knowing that my current all time favorite Pokemon will never be available for some time, and a national dex won't change that? I'm shit out of luck regardless.

We all can't get what we want, but battering down Gamefreak's social media and attacking them on all fronts comes across as the most petty and entitled this fanbase has ever been. Pokemon is just trying to be fun, and if I can come to grips with never seeing my favorite Pokemon again, then I'm sure you lot can handle perhaps learning to love other Pokemon, too.