[ShockerCon]

Count me in for the "Shunpei is the best character on the show" club. I mean, I'm trying to like Haruto, I really am. But when he's not the one who's front in center, I think a house cat would make a more interesting main hero than him. This episode really reminded me of how much I want Shunpei to be a Rider. There's still a slight hope he could be Beast I guess..?
Also, I echo the thought that this episode made me want one of those Japanese sugar lumps.

[GeneralTekno]

Haruto is definitely an uninteresting character.

I'm not sure who's more boring - Wizard or Decade.

[Den-O]

I really don't find Haruto to be as abosolutely boring as everyone else does, I kind of like the guy. And I really like Wajima and Rinko. Don't need any of the other characters though. No thank to Koyomi, Shunpei, Phoenix, or Medusa. Those are some spectacularly boring villains.

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by Den-O

I really don't find Haruto to be as abosolutely boring as everyone else does, I kind of like the guy. And I really like Wajima and Rinko. Don't need any of the other characters though. No thank to Koyomi, Shunpei, Phoenix, or Medusa. Those are some spectacularly boring villains.

My problem with Haruto is that watching him feels like watching Tsukasa pull off his best Tendou impersonation. Silent, stoic, always one step ahead of everyone else but telling no one, etc. But he lacks Tsukasa's supporting characters (Not Yuuseless, but the AU riders, I mean) and Tendou's charm (And Kagami). Basically, while the stoic rider can work, he's lacking the other factors to make them lovable or at the very least, interesting.
I like Wajima, but he's just a character who's begging for some kind of story arc. Rinko is just a pretty face in the room, often just showing up to remind viewers she's still around. I will agree completely on Koyumi and Medusa being boring as sin, but Shunpei and Phoenix are the only watchable characters.

Really, Wizard is just misstep after misstep, for me. Making all the Phantoms inherently irredeemable by killing their human gate; making it so that, of the main cast, only Haruto can practice magic means we spend a good chunk of an episode having characters simply running around until Haruto shows up, etc.

It's actually a rather interesting sight, considering that the characters of the week tend to be written rather well. The last one with Naoki and Kizaki was actually really good.

[Den-O]

I don't deny that he isn't as interesting as guys like Tsukasa and Tendou. But he's far more interesting than say Shotaro or Gentaro, to me at least. I enjoy his laid back way of dealing with most situations. But when he needs to be a badass he is a badass. Don't get me wrong though. This isn't my favorite show. Nor is it even my top 5 rider shows. As I said I find the majority of the supporting cast to either be annoying or useless as hell.

Wajima is a fun old guy who will be fleshed out, I'm almost sure of it. Rinko has to be more important than the pretty face in the crowd so I'm holding out for her to develop (and damn what a pretty face she is!) Koyomi is rocking the magical girl motif and is pretty cute on her own. But she adds nothing to the story other than being an occasional bitch with a crystal ball. But Shunpei is the goofiest motherfucker ever. I get him being the sort of childlike character and adding an innocent side to things but the goofballness is way over the top for him. It's reaching Fourze proportions which can kill the show for me.

There are some seriously low points in Fourze that I don't think this show has reached yet. But it needs to pull out of this nosedive really soon. Needs more White Wizard and Wajima stories.

[Kamen Rider Meteor]

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Originally Posted by GeneralTekno

Haruto is definitely an uninteresting character.

I'm not sure who's more boring - Wizard or Decade.

At least Haruto is a friendly , good hearted person. He's a quiet dude that likes donuts and wants to save people... What the hell is wrong with that?

[Galvantula]

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Meteor

At least Haruto is a friendly , good hearted person. He's a quiet dude that likes donuts and wants to save people... What the hell is wrong with that?

There's nothing wrong with that. If anything, Haruto would be a great Rider, seeing how some of these Gates act. Does being a Gate automatically make one a jerk? Because that's what I'm seeing.

The main flaw is that Wizard comes off as a Gary Stu: Flawless and unflappable for the most part. If the hero feels no fear, then the audience can't connect to him at a emotional level. If we can see more of Haruto acting like a human and not like some high and mighty dragon, that would at least be a step in the right direction.

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by Galvantula

There's nothing wrong with that. If anything, Haruto would be a great Rider, seeing how some of these Gates act. Does being a Gate automatically make one a jerk? Because that's what I'm seeing.

That's what makes the gates so interesting. They're human. They feel fear. They feel anger. They react. Watching them is like watching real people. A monster shows up to try and kill you, not everyone is just going to sit down and wait for the donut obsessed man to solve their problems. They run away, they get confrontational and angry, they deny it and move on.

My problem with Wizard isn't the writing, because I'd freaking murder for more Kizaki and Naoki. It's the writing on Haruto himself. When Shunpei/Koyumi/Rinko/Wajima are fighting, what does he do? He sneaks out. When he gets a new ring, what does he do? He walks out. When the gate is PMSing over something, what does he do? He walks away. Haruto's only involvement in the series seems to be a magical guardian. This wouldn't be so bad except this is the character we're following...

[SideswipePrime]

I never did post my thoughts did I? I can't remember a lot, but Hurricane Dragon was cool.