[ZeoRangerV]

Yup, Wizard is all flash and no substance at the moment. Its a real problem when the characters of the week are far more interesting and engaging than any of your lead cast.

[Edag88]

I brought this up with someone too. I think it's a little more than that, but this is the basic problem. We were talking about how Haruto just follows people around and eats donuts while watching them get character development while he gets none, eats donuts while they're concerned about their story, takes a nap, then a monster shows up, the cop babe has to nudge him to wake him up, and "Oh, cool!", Driver On, and shabadoobieda it's ass kicking time.

What I mean by thinking it's more than that, none of the other characters do much. Shunpei runs around being pathetic, we're supposed to feel sorry for him, and while I can see him growing into more of a character to root for, right now we don't know much about him besides him wishing he could have been a magician. If the current Rider setup wasn't so set in stone with how this show works (new Rider, new forms by episode 10, second rider by 15 or 17, etc etc. Late 20s/early 30s second rider final form, by 36 main Rider final form, blah blah blah), I would say Shunpei could become a Wizard Rider by the end, but I don't know now.

Koyomi I completely forgot about. She spoke this past episode and I was like "Hey, you're still there?"

Rinko hasn't done anything at all since the first or second episode, which sucks because I kind of like her and think she could be fun. I was kind of hoping bringing the cops into it would have a nice magic vs. technology contrast, kind of like Kuuga but different too.

I think the biggest problem though is the focusing on a new gate every week. Sure, it's nice to have a gate, but making them pretty much the main character for two episodes, exploring their entire back story, everything about them, their fears, their social security numbers, everything, and then just tossing them aside, we don't have any time at all to learn about the main four crew.

I brought up the point to my brother about how back during Kiva, we didn't even notice that they did the two parter thing until someone brought it up to us because every episode was about Wataru. Sure, there were guest stars, but the main focus was "What is Wataru doing today? Oh, he's in a band? How will this help him break out of his shell? Oh, Otoya is after Yuri again! Let's watch their relationship grow!" We get none of that now. Watching it for real for the first time, I didn't even notice Kuuga had two parters. The difference between that and Wizard though is every two parter was about Yusuke. Granted there were guest stars like the two episodes about meeting his teacher, but it had a direct effect on Yusuke's character, who he was, we got to know him a little better. All this stuff helped us love him more as we saw him fight and get stronger.

I know, blah blah blah. I just REALLY wish they mixed this show up story wise compared to the last three. Granted, with W its okay to have the guest stars be a big focus because it's about a detective and his cases, but in the two before Wizard and Wizard, it just seems too easy as opposed to actually writing a nice drama about the main characters.

I guess you can say the same thing happened with the Kamen Rider Club in Fourze. There were what, seven of them? Most of them we know almost nothing about at all because the time was taken up by a new guest every arc. While I am SO GLAD the fighting is better in Wizard than the complete opposite and awful Fourze (fighting wise), I'm bummed that we have to deal with a mostly boring plot now.

Thus ends my dissertation on Kamen Rider Wizard.

(Jeez)

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by Sentai

He doesn't need a personality, his belt has a good enough to carry this whole season. Shabadoobie!

If there's anything I dislike more than Haruto, it's that belt.
*Haruto attempting to act dramatic and serious*
"SHABADOOBIE NEVERSHUTTHEFUCKUP! SHABADOOBIE NEVERSHUTTHEFUCKUP!"
Lol tension? Drama? Bitch please. At least Fourze's countdown could be used in tense situations.

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by Edag88

What I mean by thinking it's more than that, none of the other characters do much. Shunpei runs around being pathetic, we're supposed to feel sorry for him, and while I can see him growing into more of a character to root for, right now we don't know much about him besides him wishing he could have been a magician. If the current Rider setup wasn't so set in stone with how this show works (new Rider, new forms by episode 10, second rider by 15 or 17, etc etc. Late 20s/early 30s second rider final form, by 36 main Rider final form, blah blah blah), I would say Shunpei could become a Wizard Rider by the end, but I don't know now.

Don't know how you came to that conclusion with Shunpei. He's literally the only character in this show who's received any form of character growth, and that's before his recent episode with the sweets shop.

[Sentai]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

If there's anything I dislike more than Haruto, it's that belt.
*Haruto attempting to act dramatic and serious*
"SHABADOOBIE NEVERSHUTTHEFUCKUP! SHABADOOBIE NEVERSHUTTHEFUCKUP!"
Lol tension? Drama? Bitch please. At least Fourze's countdown could be used in tense situations.

I think you just hate anything goofy and fun

[Matrixbeast]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sentai

I think you just hate anything goofy and fun

No. I just hate Haruto and Wizard.

[RiderSkyward]

I only got caught up on wizard yesterday, had 5 episodes to watch...

I thought it might of just been me that was finding it lacklustre, guess not =p I don't think it's fair to say Haruto is completely boring, the guys been through a lot and clearly has his demons, both literally and metaphorically.

I think my biggest problem is how he wins every week. We keep getting told that they need to make more phantoms, yet they still find a fresh one each mini-arc. It just seems pointless. It reminds me of the worm or orphenoch, except people actually got turned into those, maybe thats why I find it so strange? Although it feels like you just see the same four orphenoch in faiz..but I digress..

Still gonna try and stick with it, hopefully it'll pick up with Beast's intro, but I'm definitely not as excited to sit and watch each new episode as I was with Fourze =\

[Switchblade]

The problem with Wizard for me isn't that Haruto is boring, it's that the whole cast is 3/5s boring, 1/5 boring with a great ass, and 1/5 unbearably annoying. Coming after three shows with really great casts Wizard is really disappointing so far in this regard. I'm loving the early Heisei feel of it, but we really need to get the characters to liven up (or shut up, in one case).

[Electric Turahk]

I completely agree. That's why I've left a few episodes come out and not watched them. I just don't find him that interesting to watch.

[Edag88]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Don't know how you came to that conclusion with Shunpei. He's literally the only character in this show who's received any form of character growth, and that's before his recent episode with the sweets shop.

Well, what has he done besides wish he was a Wizard, then realize he couldn't be, and then the sweets duo has him finally getting over the fact that he can't be and try to find something else?