Rider Of The Year Tournament 2012 Discussion

Destroyman · 12-08-2012, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Den-O

2 words. Kiva Emperor.

What part of "can see opponents weakness & exploit it" don't you understand? Emperor V Xtreme, I can see a scenario where W finds Kivat to be his weakness & targets him with the X-Bicker, firing a beam that causes him to become dizzy, desynchronizing Wataru's transformation. Also, this stigma of "W's one of the weakest Riders ever" is just bullshit.

Den-O · 12-08-2012, 05:12 PM

I really dont feel Im being biased. W is one of the weakest Heisei riders out there. Kiva is skilled, fierce, and powerful. This seems like a no-brainer to me. W may be versatile but Kiva is on par versatility wise. So this comes down to a power battle, at which Kiva is vastly superior.

Destroyman · 12-08-2012, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Den-O

I really dont feel Im being biased. W is one of the weakest Heisei riders out there. Kiva is skilled, fierce, and powerful. This seems like a no-brainer to me. W may be versatile but Kiva is on par versatility wise. So this comes down to a power battle, at which Kiva is vastly superior.

OK then, if Kiva WAS 'far superior' like you say, then it still wouldn't matter much. Because it's like David & Goliath, where Goliath was stronger than David in every way, but David won because he exploited Goliath's Weakness.

Matrixbeast · 12-08-2012, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Den-O

I really dont feel Im being biased. W is one of the weakest Heisei riders out there. Kiva is skilled, fierce, and powerful. This seems like a no-brainer to me. W may be versatile but Kiva is on par versatility wise. So this comes down to a power battle, at which Kiva is vastly superior.

No, he doesn't. A sword, a gun, and a hammer versatility doesn't make. His arsenal is so similar to every other Riders' that calling Kiva versatile is an insult to everyone else. His own physical attributes don't change like Kuuga or Agito, his personality stays much the same unlike Den-O, and the weapon doesn't imbue him with some sort of extra ability like OOO or Double. He literally just gets a sword, a gun, or a hammer. That's about it.
Double's arsenal is much the same, but the different abilities he gets with Philip's memories as well as the droids' ability to combine with many of his weapons changes things up a lot.
That, and Double probably has one of the strongest Super Modes, with the ability to instantly pinpoint an enemy's weak spot and strike it for massive damage, free flight, and all 3 of the element memories at once.

Shotaru is cool headed and aggressive, while Philip is calm and analytically. Double can literally fight while reading his opponent for weaknesses. How is this an instant loss for him?

Sentai · 12-08-2012, 06:24 PM

I'm agreeing with Matrix and Destroy. Biker Pony and Crotch Cannon. This is the turn my day has taken

Powerman293 · 12-08-2012, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KRX

But Philip does have the intellectual capacity to do so, considering all of the the knowledge on Earth is stored within his mind. Furthermore,

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Double, therefore, is not that under-powered.

I don't believe that cameo for one second, a more Ultimate version of Kuuga then Ulimate that can make anyone bleed out, can't land one hit on Shadow moon but weakest Heisei rider Double in his standard form can launch Shadow Moon in the air? I call bulls**t. Nobody ever is allowed to use that as evidence of Double's power level EVER.

KRX · 12-08-2012, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sentai

I'm agreeing with Matrix and Destroy. Biker Pony and Crotch Cannon. This is the turn my day has taken

I've been explaining why Double would win too... where's my nickname

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KRX · 12-08-2012, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Powerman293

I don't believe that cameo for one second, a more Ultimate version of Kuuga then Ulimate that can make anyone bleed out, can't land one hit on Shadow moon but weakest Heisei rider Double in his standard form can launch Shadow Moon in the air? I call bulls**t. Nobody ever is allowed to use that as evidence of Double's power level EVER.

But it's canon, as is evident in Movie War 2010. Besides, Double always has his (say it with me now):

RAINBOWS. OF. DEATH.

Matrixbeast · 12-08-2012, 06:52 PM

It's funny because I still voted Kiva.

But saying Double is skirting on popularity and not legitimate strength is just wrong.

KamenRiderOOO · 12-08-2012, 06:54 PM

Sadly for Double Fans, the 15 vote mark has been passed, and Kiva clinched it :/

View Poll Results: Which Rider is more Powerful?
Kamen Rider OOO	20	71.43%
Kamen Rider Double	8	28.57%
Voters: 28. This poll is closed

12-08-2012, 05:12 PM	#2172
Den-O Admin AKA Zordon Content Director @DenO_TokuNation Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Lexington, Ky Posts: 16,328	I really dont feel Im being biased. W is one of the weakest Heisei riders out there. Kiva is skilled, fierce, and powerful. This seems like a no-brainer to me. W may be versatile but Kiva is on par versatility wise. So this comes down to a power battle, at which Kiva is vastly superior. __________________

12-08-2012, 05:28 PM	#2174
Matrixbeast Mighty Morphin Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Za Warudo Posts: 25,466	Quote: Originally Posted by Den-O I really dont feel Im being biased. W is one of the weakest Heisei riders out there. Kiva is skilled, fierce, and powerful. This seems like a no-brainer to me. W may be versatile but Kiva is on par versatility wise. So this comes down to a power battle, at which Kiva is vastly superior. No, he doesn't. A sword, a gun, and a hammer versatility doesn't make. His arsenal is so similar to every other Riders' that calling Kiva versatile is an insult to everyone else. His own physical attributes don't change like Kuuga or Agito, his personality stays much the same unlike Den-O, and the weapon doesn't imbue him with some sort of extra ability like OOO or Double. He literally just gets a sword, a gun, or a hammer. That's about it. Double's arsenal is much the same, but the different abilities he gets with Philip's memories as well as the droids' ability to combine with many of his weapons changes things up a lot. That, and Double probably has one of the strongest Super Modes, with the ability to instantly pinpoint an enemy's weak spot and strike it for massive damage, free flight, and all 3 of the element memories at once. Shotaru is cool headed and aggressive, while Philip is calm and analytically. Double can literally fight while reading his opponent for weaknesses. How is this an instant loss for him? __________________

12-08-2012, 06:42 PM	#2176
Powerman293 Man with a plan Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,297	Quote: Originally Posted by KRX But Philip does have the intellectual capacity to do so, considering all of the the knowledge on Earth is stored within his mind. Furthermore, . Double, therefore, is not that under-powered. I don't believe that cameo for one second, a more Ultimate version of Kuuga then Ulimate that can make anyone bleed out, can't land one hit on Shadow moon but weakest Heisei rider Double in his standard form can launch Shadow Moon in the air? I call bulls**t. Nobody ever is allowed to use that as evidence of Double's power level EVER. __________________ My Twitter

12-08-2012, 06:43 PM	#2177
KRX Mild-Mannered Reporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Everywhere and nowhere, according to String Theory. Posts: 5,462	Quote: Originally Posted by Sentai I'm agreeing with Matrix and Destroy. Biker Pony and Crotch Cannon. This is the turn my day has taken I've been explaining why Double would win too... where's my nickname . __________________ \|Tumblr\|Twitter\|Pinterest\|