The Flaw of Wizard

Matrixbeast · 12-07-2012, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Waverider

This may be true, but you're talking about the Chinese.

Innovation on the Sentai/Japanese side of things.
So instead of Toei using the dart board of ideas for new Sentai they'd have to actually sit down and think.

Waverider · 12-07-2012, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Innovation on the Sentai/Japanese side of things.
So instead of Toei using the dart board of ideas for new Sentai they'd have to actually sit down and think.

Have you watched Chinese television? There are tons of Japanese and western knock offs. And most are not very good.

Matrixbeast · 12-07-2012, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Waverider

Have you watched Chinese television? There are tons of Japanese and western knock offs. And most are not very good.

Relevance?
Because unless there's only one channel, run by the same company, with shows produced by the same team, your statement makes no sense.
I've seen Japanese TV. It was crap. I'm not calling every show to come out of Japan crap, and I'm not letting my experience with it sway my opinion on the stuff I see from Japan.

Waverider · 12-07-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Relevance?
Because unless there's only one channel, run by the same company, with shows produced by the same team, your statement makes no sense.
I've seen Japanese TV. It was crap. I'm not calling every show to come out of Japan crap, and I'm not letting my experience with it sway my opinion on the stuff I see from Japan.

Having lived in both Japan and in China, I can say Japan have far better programming than China. There a a few a bunch of shows in Japan that I don't care much for. But in cases in both Japan and China, it is due to cultural differences on my part. Thank good for satellite television that is provided to me so I can watch US programs.

Powerman293 · 12-08-2012, 08:21 PM

Haruto's bland personality makes sense.... for the first few episodes. He doesn't have a second hobby because he wants to protect Gates 24/7. I mean, the guy got kidnapped, sent to an island where presumably thousands of people got shattered and monsters appeared out of them, gets the opportunity to save people like thanks to the beast inside him that and there's a girl who needs his energy in order to stay alive. Let's not forget the death of both of his parents in a car accident. That's a lot of pressure and trauma to put on one guy. So in bland Haruto's defense, it makes a little sense.

However, the burden and pain about worrying about phantoms should have been lifted when he mastered the powers of the dragon phantom in him and got Flame Dragon style. He can easily own Phantoms and protect gates now.....but no. We are going on to almost a 1/4th the way through wizard (a third of 49 is roughly 16) and Haruto is still bland. Hell, most of the cast is still bland aside from Shunpei. I thought Rinko would be more interactive with the conflicts like Ichijo from Kuuga but she is just reduced to trying to protect the Gate in the suspense of if Haruto is going to save the Gate or not. She has been reduced to a lower status then Akiko from Double, who actually had character. Even Akiko had an important role in protection but hers is more important, she protects 1/2 of Double.

I'd like to see a multi-parter where the Gate falls into despair and Haruto defeats the Gate's Phantom. He gets scarred so relieves his stress by doing something on the side and giving him, I don't know, PERSONALITY.

Or let Beast give him the kick in the a** to make his personality appear.

Wizard Driver: PERSONALITY! PLEASE!

Matrixbeast · 12-08-2012, 08:26 PM

Hell, let's go one step further. Let's have Beast exacerbate Haruto's despair, and have Haruto actually give in to the despair and birth the Dragon Phantom.
It'll make for some tension. Hell, Haruto might even return with a personality in doing so...

Powerman293 · 12-08-2012, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Hell, let's go one step further. Let's have Beast exacerbate Haruto's despair, and have Haruto actually give in to the despair and birth the Dragon Phantom.
It'll make for some tension. Hell, Haruto might even return with a personality in doing so...

But we'd have no show. Toei would never make a show based primarily on a secondary rider. That would be cool if Beast made Haruto go into despair, reminds me of Meteor Killing Gentaro, only this time its for good intentions.

Matrixbeast · 12-08-2012, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Powerman293

But we'd have no show. Toei would never make a show based primarily on a secondary rider. That would be cool if Beast made Haruto go into despair, reminds me of Meteor Killing Gentaro, only this time its for good intentions.

Of course Haruto would come back with some new form. I didn't intend on implying that Beast would become the main character

But if Wizard, for one brief moment, can capture the same moment Fourze did when Meteor killed Gentaro. The emotion, the drama, the sheer power of that scene, then I'd be willing to not write Wizard off.

Powerman293 · 12-08-2012, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Of course Haruto would come back with some new form. I didn't intend on implying that Beast would become the main character

But if Wizard, for one brief moment, can capture the same moment Fourze did when Meteor killed Gentaro. The emotion, the drama, the sheer power of that scene, then I'd be willing to not write Wizard off.

The only way Wizard so far can have good episodes with character development(in my opinion) is if they introduce new Dragon forms, Riders or its the end of the series. Come on Wizard, do better, prove me wrong about your writing and pull a 180.

I don't want to main Riders from their series to die and come back next to each other. It to me brings me a sense of unoriginality and reliance that keeps Rider series a relic and stagnant like making all of the secondary riders complete a**holes to the primary one.

Matrixbeast · 12-08-2012, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Powerman293

The only way Wizard so far can have good episodes with character development(in my opinion) is if they introduce new Dragon forms, Riders or its the end of the series. Come on Wizard, do better, prove me wrong about your writing and pull a 180.

I don't want to main Riders from their series to die and come back next to each other. It to me brings me a sense of unoriginality and reliance that keeps Rider series a relic and stagnant like making all of the secondary riders complete a**holes to the primary one.

The thing is, Wizard is prime set up for this occasion though! I don't want it to become a staple, but the entire spawning of new Phantoms is through the deaths of gates. Wizard's premise is perfect for this kind of story.

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12-07-2012, 05:33 PM	#33
Matrixbeast Mighty Morphin Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Za Warudo Posts: 25,454	Quote: Originally Posted by Waverider Have you watched Chinese television? There are tons of Japanese and western knock offs. And most are not very good. Relevance? Because unless there's only one channel, run by the same company, with shows produced by the same team, your statement makes no sense. I've seen Japanese TV. It was crap. I'm not calling every show to come out of Japan crap, and I'm not letting my experience with it sway my opinion on the stuff I see from Japan. __________________

12-07-2012, 05:53 PM	#34
Waverider Supreme Dude Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 170	Quote: Originally Posted by Matrixbeast Relevance? Because unless there's only one channel, run by the same company, with shows produced by the same team, your statement makes no sense. I've seen Japanese TV. It was crap. I'm not calling every show to come out of Japan crap, and I'm not letting my experience with it sway my opinion on the stuff I see from Japan. Having lived in both Japan and in China, I can say Japan have far better programming than China. There a a few a bunch of shows in Japan that I don't care much for. But in cases in both Japan and China, it is due to cultural differences on my part. Thank good for satellite television that is provided to me so I can watch US programs. __________________ My TFW2005 Feedback

12-08-2012, 08:21 PM	#35
Powerman293 Man with a plan Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,297	Haruto's bland personality makes sense.... for the first few episodes. He doesn't have a second hobby because he wants to protect Gates 24/7. I mean, the guy got kidnapped, sent to an island where presumably thousands of people got shattered and monsters appeared out of them, gets the opportunity to save people like thanks to the beast inside him that and there's a girl who needs his energy in order to stay alive. Let's not forget the death of both of his parents in a car accident. That's a lot of pressure and trauma to put on one guy. So in bland Haruto's defense, it makes a little sense. However, the burden and pain about worrying about phantoms should have been lifted when he mastered the powers of the dragon phantom in him and got Flame Dragon style. He can easily own Phantoms and protect gates now.....but no. We are going on to almost a 1/4th the way through wizard (a third of 49 is roughly 16) and Haruto is still bland. Hell, most of the cast is still bland aside from Shunpei. I thought Rinko would be more interactive with the conflicts like Ichijo from Kuuga but she is just reduced to trying to protect the Gate in the suspense of if Haruto is going to save the Gate or not. She has been reduced to a lower status then Akiko from Double, who actually had character. Even Akiko had an important role in protection but hers is more important, she protects 1/2 of Double. I'd like to see a multi-parter where the Gate falls into despair and Haruto defeats the Gate's Phantom. He gets scarred so relieves his stress by doing something on the side and giving him, I don't know, PERSONALITY. Or let Beast give him the kick in the a** to make his personality appear. Wizard Driver: PERSONALITY! PLEASE! __________________ My Twitter Last edited by Powerman293; 12-08-2012 at 08:25 PM..