[Androzani84]

For reference, a tsundere is a type of character who acts like they don’t care about someone else, but switch to actively caring when they’re not present. Not to be confused with “yandere” which is where the person is obsessively caring of someone to the point of insanity.

[Switchblade]

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Originally Posted by Androzani84

Not to be confused with “yandere” which is where the person is obsessively caring of someone to the point of insanity.

Sempai can’t look at that other girl if I cut off his head and carry it around in my purse. Check and mate.

[DreadBringer]

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

I don't want to nitpick, but the movie hit theaters one day before Episode 27, so 28 is the second episode to air after the movie.

That said, I claimed it was a fortnight since the movie, when it was actually only eight days. I was thinking about it in terms of a week between the movie and 27, but that wasn't the case. Sorry for the only error this thread will have in it!

No, nitpick all you want if it's to correct (and not conveyed in condescending way too), because it's a nice new info and trivia to have. So it's about the release date... I was thinking about the movie setting (being set between ep. 27 and 28, 27.5).

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

Don't know what "tsundere" means (know it's an anime term; not an anime guy), but I think this is just Momo covering for the confusion of his own sadness. He never thought he cared about the other three Imagin, but now that they're dying he sees how he needs them around. He can't say that, so he acts tough and pretends like he won't miss them.

It's not necessarily anime term, and I feel like people mistake it for that (furthermore, thinking that tsundere only can apply for females, or it's all about screaming "baka!"). Tsundere is having affection for someone, but covers it up with rough treatment of said affection object. And I refer to Momo acting tough and claiming he wants the other three Taros to be gone, but he actually secretly cares about them. Some other KR characters are tsunderes too like Ankh to Eiji, or some secondary Riders like Ren to Shinji (not to Yui or Eri).

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

I'm okay with Ryotaro and Hana being powerless to save their friends because this is explicitly a story about only really understanding how much people mean when they're gone, so you should try to value them when they're around. If it's a story where Hana or Ryotaro are running around trying to prevent things, it's a different story entirely. Plus, it's all about how Momo is dealing with this, so two other characters saving the day changes the goals of the story.

I always feel that Ryotaro already cherishes the Imagins around him, that Ryotaro already values them before this moment and didn't need to understand about that. Hana did show affection for certain Imagins like Deneb (!), I still wonder what's in Deneb that softens Hana without any rought treatment, only for him (not Kintaros in his debut scene where she reminds Imagins' malicious nature), but Hana probably got a case of tsundere too regarding Imagins; normally she makes it very clear how much she hates Imagin and routinely beats up the four Taros for how they treat Ryotaro, but she does care about them deep down, like crying when Ura, Kin, and Ryu seemingly vanished.

[Kamen Rider Die]

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

I always feel that Ryotaro already cherishes the Imagins around him, that Ryotaro already values them before this moment and didn't need to understand about that. Hana did show affection for certain Imagins like Deneb (!), I still wonder what's in Deneb that softens Hana without any rought treatment, only for him (not Kintaros in his debut scene where she reminds Imagins' malicious nature), but Hana probably got a case of tsundere too regarding Imagins; normally she makes it very clear how much she hates Imagin and routinely beats up the four Taros for how they treat Ryotaro, but she does care about them deep down, like crying when Ura, Kin, and Ryu seemingly vanished.

Sure, but this mostly (and surprisingly!) ended up being a story about how Momo felt about the other Imagins, so any unnecessary or superfluous Hana/Ryotaro scenes are... it's maybe a misdirection? I think it's the story getting you to overlook Momo's reactions (which are very minor) so that the climax has more impact.

For Hana liking Deneb... he hands out Deneb candy! That buys a lot of goodwill!

[DreamSword]

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Sempai can’t look at that other girl if I cut off his head and carry it around in my purse. Check and mate.

I see you're a fan of School Days. Obviously very comparable to Den-O and Hibiki.

[AkibaSilver]

I know I haven't been around, but I've come back to speak only the truth.

Wing Form is the best Den-O form.

Also the movie is great, Climax Form debut is great, Deneb best Imagin, and Yuuto's stargazing is adorable.

[Switchblade]

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I see you're a fan of School Days. Obviously very comparable to Den-O and Hibiki.

Not a fan, just know it exists.

[Sunred]

Climax Form is a beautiful mess. I loved it back then still love it now.

[Kamen Rider Die]

KAMEN RIDER DEN-O EPISODE 29 - "LUCKY HORROR SHOW"




Fittingly for an episode set at a haunted house, I was absolutely terrified at the thought of a story built around people getting very excited to win a date with Airi. The potential pitfalls for a storyline like that would make the Grand Canyon look like a pothole. But no! That's not really what this episode's about at all! It's an episode about trying to be better for the people you care about, which is a very nice sentiment. It's also an episode about how shared selfishness can sometimes be a better motivating force than cooperation or sacrifice, and that is a hilarious sentiment.

The conclusion of this weird almost-one-off (it looks like Deneb's sadness is going to spillover into an episode I could not be more excited to watch), where the DenLiner Imagin have to figure out what one thing they could all believe in enough to use Climax Form and that thing is Not Working Together... genius. I love it. It's a total zig where other shows would zag, and it's hilariously this show. These heroic imagination monsters from the end of time can't cooperate for a shared desire, but they sure as shit can be so unreasonably and collectively selfish that they'll power through any obstacle in tandem. It's a fantastic note to end on, We Are All Pretty Greedy Deep Down And That's Sometimes Better Than Apathy, and it's a great juxtaposition to award that behavior while penalizing Zeronos for trying to protect Deneb.

It's a purely selfless act from Yuuto, him using his penultimate Zeronos Card to save the presumably imperiled Deneb. It's for nothing, of course. Deneb is trying to overcome his inexplicable terror (it's funny, but it's a weird thing in the episode, since Deneb is an imagination monster from the end of time who fights imagination monsters from the end of time pretty regularly? But he's petrified of spookums for this episode?) and win Yuuto a date with Airi, so there's really no danger. But Yuuto rushes there regardless, and Deneb is shattered by how much he's let Yuuto down. It's the one real emotional stake of this episode, and MAN they definitely hit the stake into the ground at the end. Having Deneb's cute little subplot result in Yuuto losing a Card and Deneb running away from home? Sad! Too sad! Didn't want a sad ending to this goofy-ass trifle!

It's a hilarious episode besides that, though. Just wall-to-wall goofs. The story takes off like a rocket, and Ryotaro's actor does award-level work by cycling through every Imagin in short order. There's a real transformation he goes through when he plays possessed, and it's never more clear than when an Imagin is only there for a line before moving on. Getting to see so many fun moments, as the Imagin try to cobble together a working team in order to defeat a local haunted house, and they can't even manage that (Kin botches it! Ryutaros never even gets his shot!), it's a really stellar episode for Ryotaro's actor.

Everyone else who shows up for this one (bit of a light cast, which is to the story's benefit, focus-wise) gets a killer moment or two, though. Naomi's at her most Chaotic Good here, generally encouraging the Imagin while delighting at their continued bickering and misfortune. Hana gets one of the episode's biggest laughs by being terrible at surviving a haunted house because she can't stop fighting back. Yuuto eating an incredibly large rice ball. Deneb's slow realization, amid his own screams, that the monster staring at him is his own reflection. Just a comedic masterclass, top to bottom, front to back.

Fun way to come at the now-standard Wait Can We Use This Super Form Again plot. The continued exploration of the DenLiner Imagins inexplicably effective non-teamwork teamwork is endlessly delightful, and I could not be more pleased to have their victory come at the expense of any of them learning anything positive or helpful. Brilliant.




THE BAGGAGE CAR

-This episode's Imagin and contract holder were fine. Zero percent surprised that the murderer didn't really murder anyone, because that's not what kind of show this is. The Imagin had a good visual, but didn't really get a chance to chatter enough to feel like more than a speed bump. Not a lot of room to develop the IOTW here, and while I am totally okay with that, it's still worth noting.

-The touch of Deneb's note imploring Yuuto to chew thoroughly while Yuuto takes disturbingly big bites of this head-sized rice wedge... so good. So goddamn funny.

[Androzani84]

Well, here we are at the first of two (mostly) standalone episodes in Den-O. I don’t recall much, but I can remember the next one is innocuously important.

Anyway, back to what I do with every new monster*

Shōto Kachii

Notable Anime roles: Ikki Kida in Bakkyuu HIT! Crash Bedaman, Yosshi Miyoshi in Bakuman. 2, Dr. Hell blade in Beyblade: Metal Fusion, Marechiyo Oomaeda in Bleach, Kowalski in Fortune Dogs, Badat in Glass Feet, Tadataka Zengyou in Gunparade March, Kaishu Katsu in Intrigue in the Bakumatsu - Irohanihoheto, Kagetora Katsuki in Monkey Turn V, Chief Director Hosome in REC, Deadwing in (The) Reflection, Insect-user in Saiyuki Reload, Munetaka Yagyu in Tokyo Majin Gakuen Kenpucho: Tou 2nd Act, Dr. Bariki Kudō and Manriki Kudō in Tomica Kizuna Gattai Earth Granner.

*I looked up the VA for the next one, and his career is so uninteresting (I found his wife more fascinating than him), that I just decided to skip him and tell you who the main face guest for that episode is.